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Dom(mes) & fresh ideas (23)

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17 Apr 06, 11:59 AM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
cutenkinky wrote:
demolition_red wrote:
No.

a) you don't have to ask first. You put the traffic lights sustem in and take feedback after. an essential paret of after care anyway.

b) a dom/me who thinks they know best and won't take feedback is a very dangerous person indeed.

c) whenever you dom/me its a interaction between two people.

d) surprise doesn't have to be a key element of any scene I do. his/her ability to please, my doing something they like, the endorphin rush, etc, etc are all high points. There are many things to explore.

e)Before you play you should always ask what s/he wants, is willing to accept and what her limits are anyway.

When you become more proficient you will be able to integrate all different elements. Without the input of a sub or a bottom you'll never be proficient

thank you very much thats so helpful in alot of respects, im gonna take all this on board, do some reading and see what avenue that takes me down!

so ideally the subs input is essential? that what your saying isnt it? would you agree with talking about scenes before they happen or just limits?

sorry if sounding a little dim today but pre coffee lol

The sub is, after all, a breathing human being, an individual with a certain experience, a life, a complex psychology. Getting to know a person is always a good way to find out what makes them tick, to the activities (in the case of BDSM) that get a positive o non-positive response from them. Getting to know yourself in this area is a good idea too: to engage in a dialogue, to discuss things and to plan scenes together. When I'm planning a session, I listen, nod, ask questions when things are not clear, and then decide all by myself based on what I've been told. follow your instincts. How you choose to put all that info into practice and build up a scene is up to you in the end. And when you get down to play, there are going to be surprises for both parts, don't worry. Luckily, good ones. If something doesn't work out, stop, relax, and try something else. You are not being examined by an award panel, you are expressing and enjoying yourself in the company of somebody significant and valuable, even if it's only so for a couple of hours.

Women are like snakes. The last thing to die is the tail" - Truman Capote

17 Apr 06, 12:11 PM
DarkSpirits
UK, 8 yrs
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/encyclopervia/A...

cutenkinky wrote:
Is there a whole vat of information out there for new dom(mes) or do you just really take it by feel/moment/scene/person by person etc?

Would love it if you would share some of your personal sourches with me, books maybe and ideas.

Thanks for your time - sure will help/aid alot of new dom(mes) out there.

What is for dinner Master? swish and whips girl!

17 Apr 06, 12:14 PM
Mistress_Helen
6 yrs
I go by "Poking People With A Stick 101" by Jay Wiseass.
17 Apr 06, 12:26 PM
Ariane
8 yrs
cutenkinky wrote:

so ideally the subs input is essential? that what your saying isnt it? would you agree with talking about scenes before they happen or just limits?

sorry if sounding a little dim today but pre coffee lol

Communication is always essential.

The element of surprise is more a personal matter. Some like surprises, some don't. Either way, limits should definitely be understood.

Next sub I'm seeing knows exactly what I want from him and why, and I've heard enough of his history to know I won't be transgressing his limits in the process. This is one I haven't seen before so although I know he likes that feeling of wondering what may happen next, I won't make it something that I don't know he would be happy with. Safewords will be in place anyway.

When you establish a relationship with a sub, you will get to know his likes, dislikes and limits. On a first time it's really important to talk about what is ok and what isn't. Some people use checklists. The traffic light safewords that DR mentioned are always good if you're indulging in casual play with people you don't know well, but developing the habit of askingthem generally what they're into and about limits is good practise. Especially if you're looking for play that could be challenging in some way.

Ariane

Nulla Anxietas

17 Apr 06, 12:58 PM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
darknesss wrote:
salsta6 wrote:
Would love to have lessons with a single tail tho'.

Tis hardly a beginners toy, but if you are going to learn...go to the best! Alex is holding classes...

http://www.alexcobra.co.uk/alex_cobra_whip_maste...

Absolutely seconded!

Women are like snakes. The last thing to die is the tail" - Truman Capote

17 Apr 06, 8:28 PM
Miss_Lead
UK(HP), 6 yrs
demolition_red wrote:
The same is true here. In part, you are playng with their fantasies, their desires and if they are more experienced than you they are great resources.

You don't have to do as they ask, exactly as they say and nor do you have to take direction.

But the more you know about them, what excites them etc, etc the better your scene will be, the longer you'll have to play, the more reward you'll get.

Good luck. Take things slowly. admit your inexperience and don't do things you're not ready for.

thank you for this and for so much more - you have no idea how much you have helped.... also thanks to all those that have become a part of this discussion, appreciated xx

18 Apr 06, 1:17 PM
The_Playhouse
UK, 7 yrs
£
There has been some fantastic advice given above so I won't repeat it. I would recommend reading - The Topping Book and Bottoming Book are my favourites. Also if you can get to a fetish fair the demos are fantastic for learning - it is where I learnt a lot years back and you can usually learn a lot from stallholders and other people there. Getting to clubs to watch others scene is a great way to get new ideas and see how things are done by others. If you don't want to play at a club you never have to. Look on the events list for events near you. Getting to a local munch can be a great way to meet people you can chat about this with. There is also some information you can get from the cost of a couple of stamps if you send off for a free copy of Curious magazine

http://www.freakclubwear.co.uk/curious/index.html

And if you are looking to learn in a more private setting I offer training sessions for Dominants, which you can also bring a sub along to if you have a regular play partner.

http://www.the-playhouse.co.uk/couples/index.html

Learning together is part of the fun and what makes your relationship deepen. It is common to feel as the Domme that you should be the strong and knowledgeable one, but genuine submissives will respect you more for admitting you are new and be happy to help you through scenes. Even if they are not fantastic scenes because you are learning so much, it can lead to far far better scenes in the future and your sub is far more likely to stick around for this if you are honest and do not try to much at first.

And remember above all it is about being SAFE, SANE AND CONSENSUAL and having FUN! There are no hard an fast rules except these - do what you both enjoy, not what you feel you should be doing.

Mistress Kitana

The Playhouse The home of three lifestyle Mistresses where the possibilities are endless... www.the-playhouse.co.uk

18 Apr 06, 1:34 PM
MissyG
UK(MK), 8 yrs

tanmybackside wrote:
its one of the best things for me.

I'm glad its all about u.

cutenkinky, its about learning from the sub aswell...once you have done it afew times, then you'll be comfortable with it, you can still take them by suprise, but its always nice getting feedback at the same time.

Kinkfest3 -:|:-My Website -:|:-London Munch -:|:- London Alternative Market -:|:- Hades

18 Apr 06, 1:44 PM
Deviant_Bitch
UK(G), 6 yrs

Think we should have a seperate board for newbies. Is very difficult to try and find your feet when you dont know what advice to take. Good luck and I think that everyone never really stops learning.
18 Apr 06, 5:12 PM
DelBoy28
6 yrs
I'm very new to all this, 2 months ago I hadn't taken a step, now I've got a firm pace and learning everyday. I'm not big on reading but I've heard a few of the titles mentioned on this thread mentioned before so may pick a copy up. But everything I've learnt so far has been through talking, just sitting and talking stuff over, different ideas and ways of thinking, hearing peoples point of view and experiences. But I will soon be attending the Maison de Sade and expect my brain to go into meltdown from the wealth of knowledge at my fingertips.

Do we ever stop learning new things?

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