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Sorry boys (and girls) to burst any bubbles but.... (19)

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28 Nov 05, 6:05 AM
demolitionred
7 yrs
oscagne_uk wrote:
because someone calls themselve a dominant that that means that they stop being human and are suddenly elevated to some level just below godhood.

How dare you? I am omnipresent, omniscient and omin-gorgeous. So get down and give me twenty before I smite you with a thoudsand ills...

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Edited 28 Nov 05, 6:54 AM by demolitionred

28 Nov 05, 6:33 AM
WaterDragon
UK(LN), 6 yrs
Manniq wrote:

On at least one occasion, he has inserted a large package through our rear entrance, when this is clearly reserved for the cats... and he disappears for days at a time, only to re-emerge smoking.

And as for our neghibours... Just don't get me started.

Though one of them swas seen, in a recent rainstorm, streaking naked down her garden to the riverbank.

<sigh>

Regards,

M

Damn advanced cat that!

I wish my neighbours were that interesting.

Hugs,

Irene.

28 Nov 05, 6:58 AM
Ariane
8 yrs
I suppose I agree with the sentiment of this, although often it's just semantics. Can't say I haven't done the same with subs. But then, many of them like objectification...;)

Ariane

Relax, nothing's under control.

28 Nov 05, 3:52 PM
oscagne_uk
UK(CV), 7 yrs
Ismael63 wrote:
Beelzebunny wrote:
Dominant or submissive, it's something we do, not the sum total of what we are.

Very well said!Can't ad nothing to it.

E.

I think that's the important thing here. It's a part of us, not the whole of us, and i posted the original post yesterday after seeing yet more people who don't seem to have grasped this little fact.

Mind i also fully expected to be flamed to hell for making such comments. Thankfully that hasn't happened :)

.

my stories at http://members.tripod.com/~oscagne whatever i say is my opinion, and mine alone. Leamington Spa munch details at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/leamingtonmunchand...

28 Nov 05, 5:48 PM
Kassandra
UK(EH), 7 yrs
oscagne_uk wrote:
After reading a few posts that seem to from singletons aimed at (primarily) female dominants here, and the terminology used ("female thingy", or "i'm about to go on a date with a Domme", and things like that), I've got more and more annoyed.

(and before anyone says it, i don't revisit those threads next time i come to read IC).

But it has lead me to ask what is it with these people that seem to think that because someone calls themselve a dominant that that means that they stop being human and are suddenly elevated to some level just below godhood.

Sorry to burst anone's bubbles but these people are human, they're like you and me, your postman, and your next door neighbour. Until such time as you have an agreement in place with a particular person to treat them differently (which includes them specifically requesting to be treated differently) then treat them as you would any other stranger - i.e with due respect and politeness till they prove themselves worthy otherwise (positively or negatively).

I know that some people get off on objectifiying their dominant - and i'm sure that some dominants enjoy being treated as a special object, but very few if any that i know do - at least by people that they don't know. They prefer to be treated as a human being.

anyhow - rant over, flameproof underwear being put on, and i'm off to the shops.

.

Politeness I like but being called Ma'am, Miss, Mistress etc etc by people who do not know me ( and mostly by people who do) is a bit of a turn off. I have a name like everyone else and unless I say different it's the one I like to be called by. If I got put on a pedestal I would only fall off unless it was to help me see over the heads of the crowd ( being short).

If you're not part of the solution you are the precipitate

28 Nov 05, 7:09 PM
rascalDan
UK(DN), 6 yrs

oscagne_uk wrote:
Ismael63 wrote:
Beelzebunny wrote:
Dominant or submissive, it's something we do, not the sum total of what we are.
Very well said! Can't ad nothing to it.
I think that's the important thing here. It's a part of us, not the whole of us, and i posted the original post yesterday after seeing yet more people who don't seem to have grasped this little fact.

Mind i also fully expected to be flamed to hell for making such comments. Thankfully that hasn't happened :)

I think you only get flamed when you say something the majority of people disagree with. You, on the other hand, said what most people seem to have been thinking for a long time.

I'm gonna shed my light on this, and see if anyone can back up/support this or disagree with me. I'm new to the scene and I'm new to the site. Rightly or wrongly, I tend to read only the BDSM posts, sometimes chat if something catches my eye. I do this because I wish to learn about how people view the scene, act in the scene, I want to learn new words etc etc etc. My vanilla is pretty reasonable, my BDSM knowledge is limited.... so I hope you can see my theory. I for one can see the problem in said theory, and it may or may not explain the problem at hand. If like me, you read the BSDM posts... you get a very biased view of the people who post. You don't really see the vanilla side, as much as you know it exists. The mental image is far from complete, but it's all you have. That mixed with being a complete novice, I dare say it's likely to produce sub ideal statements, despite my best efforts to say something useful and sensible.

Course all that said, I try not to let my one sided view cloud my judgement and try to post more balanced opinions without offending, upsetting, annoying (etc) anyone. If someone does post something that is considered out of line or uncalled for, do you ignore them or politely correct them?

I'm largely just raising the questions here. Limited experience, but this kind of thing about respect and not everyone being a lifestyler seems to crop up more and more. I don't know the answer... just a small corner of the problem :s

Dan

Loveable rascal seeks.....

28 Nov 05, 9:06 PM
rascalDan
UK(DN), 6 yrs

MsSpanky wrote:
Nobody is right all the time (except me but then that goes without saying :) )

For the sake of playing devils advocate (I'm feeling typically rascalish) isn't that exactly the kind of thing that gets answers like "Yes, Mistress" from complete strangers?

Dan

Loveable rascal seeks.....

Edited 28 Nov 05, 9:08 PM by rascalDan

30 Nov 05, 12:50 AM
Demiurge
UK(CV), 7 yrs
oscagne_uk wrote:

I know that some people get off on objectifiying their dominant - and i'm sure that some dominants enjoy being treated as a special object, but very few if any that i know do - at least by people that they don't know. They prefer to be treated as a human being. .

Surely it takes barely five minutes of looking at the Domme profiles on here to see exactly how and why this phenomena occurs...

For those that don't know what I'm getting at, allow me to give you the tour... these are all genuine quotes from profiles to be found on IC in a matter of minutes...

"I would wish to extend the plan to actually implanting slaves with microchip identifiers such as used in pets"

"You will need to, as I expect to be Worshiped in everyway, shape or form and my every need catered for without Question"

"I require seven male slaves (including all-rounders) and two female slaves. I will carry out a 5 stage selection process (Initial Application, Detailed Application, Initial Assessment, Detailed Assessment and Selection). If selected I will then break you and rebuild you to my specifications."

I could carry on all night... the fact is that the vast majority of male subs behave the way they do in response to the expectations they perceive from others. When every other advert seems to expect deification, when even otherwise sane women insist on capitalising Me and My, literally raising themselves to the same grammatical level as God, its hardly surprising that desperate male subs follow suit...

30 Nov 05, 1:12 AM
rascalDan
UK(DN), 6 yrs

Are we then not guilty, intentionally or otherwise, of tarring all with the same brush as it were? A practise that I do not agree with, but am perhaps guilty of. For the beginners amongst us, those who know no better, could easily be lead to believe that a Domme, any Domme, would wish to be addressed as Mistress etc. When talking to someone we don't know, we have to go with what we do know... we aren't always right.

I would guess that in most cases, no harm is meant. I don't think it would be fair to take it as a sign of disrepect, quite the opposite in fact. It's probably best described as presumptuous. If there's a lot of profiles that seem to imply it's wanted, you're gonna get lots of people doing it... it's just the way it goes unfortunately.

Dan

Loveable rascal seeks.....

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