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| Sat 22 Oct 05, 8:29 AM Rope_Bandit 6 yrs |
Hi, Just wanted to make a post here to see if you folks can help me out. I'm harboring strange thought and not sure if what I think is who I am. I've reached a point where I'm just not sure what I'm into and whether I'm entertaining thoughts out of jealousy or not. To recap quickly. My wife is a sub, I don't know. Married for 3 years mainly vanialla. Flirted with bondage over 3 years. Not enough done in this area, and I realise that she's been repressing this for years. not a good place to be in. about 6 weeks I realised this was a bigger deal than I knew so spent time finding out what I was into. now although I'd not expressed this before I'm realise that I'm basically into bondage. I am tuned into this, and daily the signal gets cleared for me. before I mention the next bit I want to explain about the jealousy. 3 weeks or so ago my wife started a relatonship with a male dom over the intenet. Something that at a dark point got in the way and almost wrecked our marriage. I realise that my issue was not actually with what they are doing (sub - dom) thing. But him. Any who. So he's a dom, six weeks ago she would have wanted nothing more than this to be me. But I realise that although I'm not a natural dom I'm having dom like thoughs. Some articles I've read say you are or you aren't I'm not quite sure. I don't know if I'm jealous and want to be a dom, or if I really an having thoughts. My wife is an strong person, and whilst she knows it's me she won't submit to me easily (in fact only when bound). But I do actually long to make her submit even though not there in person. But while shes enjoying this dom side over the net, she doesnt want this from me, and has said that she doesnt want this from me period. I think she says this cause she belives I'm either not in to it , or not capable. I might not sound like a dom, but i would apreciate any comments at all. | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 8:45 AM MistressMatrix 6 yrs £ |
i am really sorry to here that this has happened in your relationship.
but personally i believe that you cannot have a Dom/sub relationship within a marriage unless all lines of communication are open about every aspect. from what you say i kind of get the feeling that the two of you don't talk to each other. this is not good on a Dom/sub level. and openness and honesty has to be the basis for any relationship as far as i am concerned, so that jealousy does not come into it. i hope that the two of you can work this out, and grow and learn about this wonderful scene together. Luv & hugs PLEASURE = PAIN = PLEASURE | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 9:12 AM uktrucker UK(CO), 9 yrs |
I am Sorry to hear how things are going for you. The main thing, is to talk to each other. I dont think you have to be born Dom/me or sub? (Watch me get flamed for that one)
If you both want it then you can both learn together Well Mythy, You said it might help others if I wrote down how London Community has helped me. So that what I will try to do. Please feel free to word it better or cut it in any way you think best? I have had an interest in BDSM for many years but thought that I was one of very few and it would forever be a dream? Then along came the Internet and I started to find that there are others just like me (Hey so I'm not such a freak? Well Mythy I hope that this is the sort of thing you wanted? all our best uktrucker{LL} Sorry for a long and boring post. but I hope it helps you nigel uktrucker sub/slave/husband to Lady Lyn | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 9:12 AM eebledeeble UK, 6 yrs |
I have a feeling the reason she says she doesn't want you to top her is that she feels such acts are somehow too "dirty" to fit into your loving marriage. It's just a matter for you to talk to her about it, and explore together what turns you both on. Sounds like a fantastic opportunity to discover a part of you that is yearning to get out. So don't tie it down! (there are so many other things much better to tie!) | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 9:34 AM tamed_oceanuk UK, 7 yrs |
it could also be that the attachment she is forming with the on line Dom is overpowering everything else! when i had an on line Dom he ruled my whole world for a short time, ok, i wasnt in a relationship at the time, when i met Mr B, the same thing happened but this transferred to real time and a long term relationship. i think you need to act quickly! find out whats going on on line and try re enacting it in real time, seperate the fantasy and make it a reality, i suppose what im saying is - take control! tamed xxx p.s. jealousy is an out of control feeling.
"our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate, our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us" | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 9:44 AM johnnyblindfold 7 yrs |
Communication, Communication, Communication! I learned that (albeit too late) from my last long term relationship, where we both dabbled around the fringes of BDSM - mostly bondage play - without ever clearly defining our roles. Basically we were both submissive, or at least the one who wanted to be tied down for otherwise mostly vanilla sex, but both of us, having come from pretty conventional backgrounds, had problems in admitting that we both liked this aspect of our sex lives. She had the more 'dominant' personality of the two of us, which basically led to her demanding to be the one in the handcuffs most of the time. This in turn frustrated me by having to carry out the Dom role to which I was not ideally suited. Any attempt to have a meaningful discussion about this was generally stonewalled by her, and led slowly to the disintegration of the relationship (there were other factors too but this played a significant part). This was several years ago now, before the internet was what it is today, so make the most of the resourses you have available to you such as IC, to work out where you want to be and use it as a basis for dialogue with her in an attempt to get as much out in the open as you can. There are plenty of good people around here to give you support, and I wish you the best of luck in working things out. | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 1:02 PM Insistor UK(PL), 7 yrs |
Come on! You can think your way around this. So you've left it a bit late. If you've ignored your wife's needs for years, it's hardly surprising that she's looking elsewhere. And naturally the online Dom is going to be more sucessful at providing excitement than you right now. But three weeks isn't very long (you don't say whether they've exchanged pictures or phonecalls) so there are plenty of opportunities for disappointments there. If six weeks ago, she was prepared to accept you as her Dom, there is still a strong possibility that you can rekindle your relationship and move it on to a new level. Communication is essential but more is needed. I recommend some fantasy-fulfillment role-play. Stimulate your imagination and put it to work.
Edited 23 Oct 05, 11:05 AM by Insistor | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 1:38 PM Sangronun 7 yrs |
Whilst agreeing with tania I do also need to point out that my experience is that the Dom/sub dynamic whether it be D/s or bdsm based does not always work between couples who have been married for some time and / or who are newly married. Dont ask me why cos I am not married but I know that bright_eyes has psoted on it. you could do worse than memo her. MG your kinklusive needs YOU - Volunteers needed - Memo me for details. | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 11:28 PM darkdollie UK(FY), 7 yrs £ |
i would be quite happy if you would like to memo me about this. As MG said i have posted on this before as some cannot understand how it works. It does for us and me and my husband were much happier when we finally admitted we couldn't play with each other. Just remember communicate, and if the love is there you can survive anything.
perspectives change when your on your knees ~ Killing Miranda | ||
| 22 Oct 05, 11:54 PM MistressMatrix 6 yrs £ |
agreed, but also on that note my husband and i play together and with others quite happily. so if you are after both sides of the coin feel free to memo me too. PLEASURE = PAIN = PLEASURE Edited 22 Oct 05, 11:55 PM by MistressMatrix | ||
| 24 Oct 05, 11:25 PM xxbeexx UK, 6 yrs |
So he's a dom, six weeks ago she would have wanted nothing more than this to be me. But I realise that although I'm not a natural dom I'm having dom like thoughs. Some articles I've read say you are or you aren't I'm not quite sure. I don't know if I'm jealous and want to be a dom, or if I really an having thoughts. My wife is an strong person, and whilst she knows it's me she won't submit to me easily (in fact only when bound). But I do actually long to make her submit even though not there in person. Sorry to hear you're having a rough time. It sounds to me like you might be worrying to much about this not a "natural Dom thing". I wouldn't worry about fulfilling some kind of Dom criteria. You have said you want to make your wife submit, which is the main point, so now comes the fun part where you and your wife can go about learning how you want to do it. I think this kind of life style has a hugely creative and imagative side and with anything creative or artistic there are no right or wrong answers. Your interests will develop as you learn more, and just like a signature you will develop your own style. Just remember it's not a race. And you never know, if you and your wife start to talk about it more a whole new beautiful dynamic to your relationship could flourish. You just need a bit of a confidence boost, why not treat yourself to some new toys you like the look of and see what happens, what the worst that can happen? As for the other Dom, 3 weeks isn't a long time and after all you are her husband, your the one she's chosen to with, this online relationship may just be a make shift outlet for her feelings right now. Just talk to her and see what happens. I'm sure it will work itself out, it won't develop over night; because no relationship can do that, just remember to keep talking.
beno |