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| Fri 26 Aug 05, 7:09 AM Parato_Law UK, 8 yrs |
As a potential slave in waiting, I spend a lot of time thinking about ways in which my devotion and obedience might one day be tested. For me, a relationship is very much a private thing so certain types of situations, for example being humiliated in public would challenge the boundaries of what feels comfortable. 'Behind closed doors' (i love this expression...)the role of the humble domestic slave can certainly be tested in tried and tested ways - for example by being made to lick shoes clean. What other degrading things do others enjoy inflicting on their slaves or having inflicted on them? I just thought about this some more and came up with the following ideas: * eating toenails * drinking certain things... * being made to lick the floor * cleaning toilets with a toothbrush... * licking feet Can anybody add any further ideas? | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 7:28 AM demolitionred 7 yrs |
What is degrading about these tasks? after all your doing stuff to please a woman who cares enoough about you to let you do these things? i.e. how you feel about a task is all about the spin of the person making you do it and your own headspace therefore any task can be as degrading or as uplifting as you like. But are you expectng the dominant to run around thinking of tasks for you to do so you can feel degraded. Shouldn't you be thinking of tasks -- degrading if you like -- that would help her, show your respect, amuse her and relieve her load? fnar, fnar I work hard hours and then come home and put in more hours as a volunteer and then I party hard. I want someone to do some of the more mundane tasks to free up my time so I have energy and time to be with him and focus on our shared goals whether this be degradation, humiliation, pain, pleasure, sex, B&D, S&M, DIY, seeing a show, going for dinner, hanging out with friends, lazing in the back garden..... --------------------------------------------------- -- Edited 26 Aug 05, 7:30 AM by demolitionred | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 10:51 AM demolitionred 7 yrs |
Corsten. I think what we're both saying is that good S&M And D&s and B&D is about an interaction. So. As is the difference between a functional, pretty crap shag and great sex the differnce beween a bit of a play around with someone and a great scene is that two poeple feed off each other. in the abstract these ideas mean nothing and can be deceiving. and -- this is personal -- I beleive feeding these fantasies for too long in the abstract reduces our ability to get in on in the real world... In no way was my comment -- and I'm sure nor was MissP's --a put-down. More a well-intentioned, considered, kick up the arse. Hopefully, we'll talk about it some more, face to face, soon. --------------------------------------------------- -- | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 10:56 AM Divatje UK(W), 12 yrs   |
Nice to see a submissive slave do some prep ...
Diva
D/s Educator | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 11:29 AM x_zero_x UK(DD), 10 yrs |
i agree with the points made, if something is truly degrading then it wouldn't be enjoyed, it would be, well, degrading. That's my tuppenceworth anyway. Maybe it would be a question better aimed at Dom/mes, what They like to do to degrade Their subs/slaves? member of the I.C weather watching club | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 12:00 PM catholic_schoolgirl UK, 6 yrs |
I don't like it when my Daddy makes me do household chores. I think that cleaning is beneath me. All the other things that he wants me to do are okay, I do them anyway, but a lot of the time it's an honour to be with him and be obedient. But, yeh, I hate it when he makes me do servant work. Ugh! | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 12:40 PM bellahindia UK, 6 yrs |
But aren't the best degrading tasks in a relationship the ones that both make the slave feel degraded and feel needed/wanted/special simultanously? Or, at least, feel degraded and turned on by the sheer fact that (s)he is being degraded? I mean doesn't it move into unstable territory if the slave is degraded in such a way that (s)he feels awful on a deeper level. I suppose that fits in with hard limits. What is one person's merry degradation is another's relationship meltdown. For example, I enjoy the degradation I have received at the hand's of my Master but I know there are some things he *could* do that would really mess my head too much [fortunately I don't believe he'd do these things, him knowing me too well]. One would be were he to cuckhold me. That would be degrading in a way that would be detrimental. Some couple's do this though and it works for them. But surely there must be *some* element of enjoyment for the slave too, admidst their degradation, otherwise it would just totally tip the emotional dynamic? I always thought degradation was meant to be enjoyed on some level by both parties. In the slave's case it's the very hating of it that makes him/her love it but, by that token, the acts prescribed are very much personal to the two people in the relationship. | ||
| 26 Aug 05, 9:43 PM nightowl91 7 yrs |
it sounds kind of weird but i never like the concept of licking up and swallowing my own cum. if i'm by myself i always seem to stop before doing it. however, if i'm with someone and they order me to do it i kind of enjoy it. makes me wonder sometimes why i can never do it by myself. perhaps it's being told to do it that makes it enjoyable | ||
| 27 Aug 05, 4:23 AM BigOldHector UK(DE), 10 yrs |
I think there is a great deal of confusion between the concepts of humbling oneself for a superior and actually being degraded. I think so far only Demolition Red's reply is the only one to cotton on to this. Many of the things you mention I would be perfectly happy and willing to do for a mistress - and not find at all degrading if I had genuine respect for her. Making myself humble at the feet of a much loved and admired lady is a joy and a pleasure, because it places her on a pedestal and allows me to express the way I feel about her. If I found that the slightest bit humiliating or degrading that would tell me in no uncertain terms that she's the wrong mistress for me and we're not compatible. Many submissives - not me, and I suspect not you - do actually get off on self-degradation, often in a rather self-centred, impersonal way, being willing to be degraded anyhow by anyone (which of course expresses actual respect for no-one). But that is an entirely different mindset from doing things you are happily willing to do in order to show humility for a very dearly revered superior. | ||
| 27 Aug 05, 6:29 AM Ariane 8 yrs |
I'm not big on degradation. I want my sub to make my life easier, amuse me, pleasure me and ideally be my pampered pet when they achieve all this. I expect humility when required. I like to think they would do these things if I required it, but cleaning a toilet with a toothbrush is impractical. I'll at least give them the proper tools. Ariane Relax, nothing's under control. | ||
| 27 Aug 05, 10:00 AM Parato_Law UK, 8 yrs |
I have found these replies very interesting. I certainly accept that a slave should be willing to to what he is told and to enjoy it. I guess my use of the word 'degredation' may have been mis-judged a little. I was just considering the differences between, perhaps, a legal, paid up domestic servant and a 'slave'. It would be highly unlikely that the domestic servant would be ordered to lick their employers feet (and even more unlikely that they would agree....) but the slave would on both counts. I hope this kind of makes sense... |
