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Welding (7)

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Sun 31 Jul 05, 2:22 PM
Andromalius
UK(M), 7 yrs

Living out in the country, the power goes off every once in a while, and in the winter it can be off for days. I'm going to build myself a bicycle generator.

This will require some welding, and if i'm going to get into diy metalwork then a whole world of possibilities opens up.

I'd appreciate therefore, any hints, tips, links or advice my fellow IC'ers could provide, as i've not done anything remotely like this before.

It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob

31 Jul 05, 2:34 PM
Kn2lrn
UK, 7 yrs
It's a pretty big subject, so could you give us an idea of what you already know at the moment, or indeed what you want to know first?
31 Jul 05, 2:45 PM
Scylla
UK, 6 yrs
Depending where you live in the north, try and find a course that will give you some basics in welding. Did one a few years ago and gave me a lot of confidence. Also if your going to buy any welding equipment, dont buy cheap as it is false economy in the long run. And finally if you are looking at modifying a bicycle and its a steel frame (easiest to work with), they are brazed and you need a gas welding kit ,oxyacetylene. Hope this is of help.

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31 Jul 05, 3:04 PM
Kn2lrn
UK, 7 yrs
A course would be a very good idea if you can find one. Will answer most of the questions you're likely to have. So's the idea of avoiding false economies and buying decent stuff.

Wouldn't necessarily agree with the suggestion of buying gas kit tho. Electric welders are a lot more versatile given your desire to get into the world of DIY metalwork, and if your generator project is going to involve modifying/adding to an existing bike frame, you don't have to braze it, although, as bike frame tubing tends to be quite thin, good current control on an electric welder (and good technique!) is very desirable.

It tends to hold that the cheaper and nastier the bike, the thicker its tubing will be, and thus the easier it's going to be to use as a basis for your project, something else to bear in mind.

Edited 31 Jul 05, 3:10 PM by Kn2lrn

31 Jul 05, 5:24 PM
Andromalius
UK(M), 7 yrs

Courses might be a bit tricky, as i may as well live on the moon i'm that far away from anywhere that does such things, but i'll look into it. Ta

It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob

31 Jul 05, 8:25 PM
Kn2lrn
UK, 7 yrs
Andromalius wrote:
Courses might be a bit tricky, as i may as well live on the moon i'm that far away from anywhere that does such things, but i'll look into it. Ta

Alternative would be a good book. SIP (makers of many of the electric welders you can buy in the UK) sell a small booklet for about a fiver that will give you the very basics and hopefully stop you doing anything potentially dangerous. Beyond that I'm sure you'll find more at a local library, or in the Haynes section of your local H*lf*rds.

Points made above about the capacity of your bicycle generator are very well made btw. I don't know what you're hoping to power from this thing or whether it was more an excuse (;)) to get a bit of welding practice before embarking on something a little more "interesting" (or indeed something to increase your fitness), but if you're hoping to get, for example, anything more than basic 12 volt lighting, you're gonna be disappointed.

If you have a requirement for mains power during a cut, an uninterruptible power supply would probably be the most realistic choice.

31 Jul 05, 10:01 PM
Scylla
UK, 6 yrs
Fetcouple wrote:
Andromalius wrote:
Living out in the country, the power goes off every once in a while, and in the winter it can be off for days. I'm going to build myself a bicycle generator.

This will require some welding, and if i'm going to get into diy metalwork then a whole world of possibilities opens up.

I'd appreciate therefore, any hints, tips, links or advice my fellow IC'ers could provide, as i've not done anything remotely like this before.

You might find you are wasting your time - generating electricity by peddling is hard work! Do you remember those old dynamos that just about made the little bulb glow dimly as you puffed and panted? You would be better off investing in a small wind generator and battery set & invertor. If you are out in the country, there should be enough free windpower. It is also worth noting that buying the stuff from the US will save a fortune as most remote farms there use this technology. UK importers and re-sellers often stick on a 400% mark up! J

If you are thinking of providing power for when you have a power cut. Then either a gernerator or using solar and wind will be more productive than using a bike powered generator

there's nothing worse than trying to fist jam a greasy crack

31 Jul 05, 10:04 PM
Damara
7 yrs
Andromalius wrote:
Living out in the country, the power goes off every once in a while, and in the winter it can be off for days. I'm going to build myself a bicycle generator.

This will require some welding, and if i'm going to get into diy metalwork then a whole world of possibilities opens up.

I'd appreciate therefore, any hints, tips, links or advice my fellow IC'ers could provide, as i've not done anything remotely like this before.

nope can't stand the subject as i do it for a living right now. but not for much longer lol
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