Forced Bi (21)

If this is correct then I am surprised that the percentage of bi men here is so low. I consider myself bi in that I can enjoy sexual interaction with other guys - oral or anal. I have never had the desire to have a male partner in a LTR, although I can get sexually turned on with men - either alone or in a mixed sex group.

If I submit to a Dominant, that is consenual. If they require me to do things that are not a stated hard limit, that is still consensual because I have submitted, regardless of what I personally feel about what I am told to do. So I don't regard forced bi as in anyway non-consensual unless it was an agreed hard limit.

Is forced bi possible for a bi person? I think so. The sub submits to the dominant whether it is something that they enjoy or something they do not enjoy. Being a bi person does not mean that I want to be sexually involved with any particular man (or woman for that matter). My bi feelings are aroused within certain situations and contexts, they are not something I get, for example, when I walk down the street and happen to see a man. The same would also apply to my hetro feelings, though they are much stronger than my bi feelings.

Surely "forced hetrosexuality" is also possible for most hetrosexuals. Or does the fact that a person is of the opposite gender automatically mean they desire sexual contact? I don't think so.

The general consensus in mainstream society, which is reflected in popular culture, is that it's ok for women to be bi, but not for men. Sadly these attitudes permeate the BDSM and fetish scenes as well, despite the deluded myth of us perves having a higher level of tolerance (look at the various my kink is better than your kink threads on various sites).

The few scenes involving guys doing stuff with guys I've seen in clubs have tended to involve myself. The prevailing homophobia on the bdsm scene can be seen pretty obviously when one event which doesn't allow same sex couples membership has an increase in membership applications when their policy is made public. The lack of outrage by most of those made aware is further testimony to the same. When people *******ly say they don't like something, but are still happy to support an event they can't be that bothered by the discriminatory policy.

I don't think change of attitude is anymore likely to occur on the scene than in society as a whole.

On the subject of forced bi, it's a bit of a misnomer as I am bi. I have however enjoyed co-topping straight guys with their Dommes.

I mention this type of stuff to guys in clubs and they back away as if I have got lepracy. I went to a men only club speciallising in giving or receiving CP and that was great fun. My right arm ached next day from whacking so many bums. mmmmmmm

LightningJack

Perhaps 'forced' is a bit of a misnomer. Perhaps it should be "bi for other than sexual reasons'.

I had a straight female slave of mine perform sexually with a Domme friend. She neither found it objectionable (women don't seem to have as strong a connection between their sexual orientation and gender identity as straight men do) nor sexually exciting. Never the less she enjoyed doing it to please me.

Sexual orientation is not what you do, but what you desire.

- Chris

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Edited 10 May 05, 3:05 PM by Backdooruk

I know there's things that I will do, but often I have to be forced to do them. The being forced to do it is the bit that I find exciting, and I'm not just playing, the things I do, I really won't do them. I'm quite relunctant when it comes to sexual things anyway.

I experiented with gay sex a few times, when I was trying to work out what/who I am. I decided that i wasn't gay, in that I don't actually feel attracted or that I could have a relationship with a man. I do however, like sucking cocks and receiving anal sex. Giving anal sex is a grey area. I have fantasised about being forced to give it, in a very physical way.

I find my mind is quite flexible. Even in every day life we find things that we don't want to do, yet when the crunch comes and you're forced to do them - fill out that application, write that CV up, start that writing/art project; that once you get started you actually enjoy it.

I would also say most of the honest males are "not bi" but can be forced. Men on here are probably in different characters, some are total time wasters, some are not. For those of us who are not, when with a couple, female or male dom. You have to go out of your way to please them. Getting to know them, building friendship and trust takes time. When you have got to like each other the dominance and active part starts, maybe you will be "forced" to do something you don't normally do only to please. Then you will keep the friendship the learning and the fun going. Is being forced fun? I had the pleasure of proving to a couple I wasn't a waste of time, and we got to the sexual side. We got to the point I went down on the doms wife and he positioned himself behind me. I had said I didn't want to, with a few "gentle" taps, on my behind and the threat of not going back, I gave in. I wasn't forced completely, the sexual tension certainly contributed. Needless to say the Dom didn't take his viagra and what he wanted to do didn't happen. I would now say I am "bi" or sexually attracted in this scenario as it did turn me on.

Interesting subject

Cheers Sb

"i haven't failed I have just found 10,000 ways that don't work"

My profile reads "I am not bi. I will never be bi. Please do not suggest that I would enjoy it if I tried it. I wouldn't. You might think I look a bit like a girl but that doesn't mean I want your cock up my arse or vice versa."

This is because I am sick of people believing that every man is at least a little bit bi. (or "can be forced.")

If you went round suggesting to lesbians that they would, really, like a bit of cock up them you would be shot down within seconds. And then beaten to a bloody pulp. So why shouldn't I defend my sexuality just as vigorously?

Edited 10 May 05, 4:39 PM by madkat

Oh I totally agree!

This is now a question of semantics, what does "bisexual" mean? I think you are saying that a person is only bisexual if they are equally attracted by the same sex and there are basically three states: straight, bi or gay.

I would regard sexuality more as a continuous line with gay at one end and straight on the other. Those somewhere in the middle being bi. Most people are pretty much at one end or the other (maybe partly by social conditioning) some are in the middle. Some vanilla people in hetro relationships also have casual sex with same sex partners, some men have sex with other men when they can't get a female partner. There are all sorts of variations.

By your definition I am hetro because that is my dominant sexuality and I'm not interested in LTR with other men, but in the right situation I can and do enjoy sex with men and don't need to be forced. I think that makes me bi.