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4 Jul 2009, 4:26 PM BST
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IC : Web boards : Other BDSM : "Forced Bi" 1 2 3
Forced Bi (21)
This post is on the Other BDSM web board.
Tue 10 May 05, 9:50 AM LightningJack 4 yrs  |
I wonder if anyone has any feelings on forced Bi. I have noticed that perhaps about 90% of females on these boards are bi or bi curious and maybe only about 5% of males Bi or curious.
There is no actual force at least beforehand as of course we are all concensual. But once the action begins the Mistress has to make sure the guys dont back out coz they almost surely will unless she has firm control. Performing oral was worse for me than the anal. This type of play is always discussed and agreed beforehand. Does male bi play only happen in proDomme scenes, I have seen female bi play in clubs.
I am generally straight but have engaged in forced bi play on just two occasions assisting my former partner in a pro scene and also assisting a ProDomme friend of mine in Essex. I think for it to be really effective the men should be hetro.
The scene works with a very assertive Domme using verbal and physical force with liberal use of a cp implement. When I did it I needed additional stimulation, I have taken a 100mg Viagra to make sure I could get it up with another man
I wonder if anyone here has been involved in similar scenes |
10 May 05, 10:21 AM sc_sep UK, 4 yrs |
LightningJack wrote:
I wonder if anyone has any feelings on forced Bi. I have noticed that perhaps about 90% of females on these boards are bi or bi curious and maybe only about 5% of males Bi or curious.
There is no actual force at least beforehand as of course we are all concensual. But once the action begins the Mistress has to make sure the guys dont back out coz they almost surely will unless she has firm control. Performing oral was worse for me than the anal. This type of play is always discussed and agreed beforehand. Does male bi play only happen in proDomme scenes, I have seen female bi play in clubs.
I am generally straight but have engaged in forced bi play on just two occasions assisting my former partner in a pro scene and also assisting a ProDomme friend of mine in Essex. I think for it to be really effective the men should be hetro.
The scene works with a very assertive Domme using verbal and physical force with liberal use of a cp implement. When I did it I needed additional stimulation, I have taken a 100mg Viagra to make sure I could get it up with another man
I wonder if anyone here has been involved in similar scenes
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I regard myself as bi - but I am in no way attracted to men - no matter how they dress - sure you see a few guys as attractive - but in a 'wish I looked like that' way
I do like bi scenes and do vanilla mm and also switch
I have a deep rooted fantasy to be instructed (but that is no quite forced) by a woman to perform with a man
The man may be dom or sub and I guess it would be good if it was him that was being forced
I have yet to make it happen - I have come close recently with a couple - but the man was told to wait downstairs and listen to me and her play upstairs - it was good but not what I was looking for or excpecting
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10 May 05, 10:56 AM deb0rah UK(BN), 7 yrs Y! |
LightningJack wrote:
I wonder if anyone has any feelings on forced Bi. I have noticed that perhaps about 90% of females on these boards are bi or bi curious and maybe only about 5% of males Bi or curious.
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I have a good friend who always spoke about wanting to try bi with another man. Recently after trying to set him up for ages, lol (he wanted a very specific scenario) it happened accidentally. He hated it, it wasnt for him at all. He was glad it happened in a non forced way or he would have backed out as it did nothing for him.
I think also that this applies to more women then you think. As a bi sexual woman in a couple, we are often approached by couples with a bi curious woman. While I dont have a problem with it, I like to know what I am going into. We had one scenario where the we were toldshe wanted it and he set it up as a surprise. He had said she was bi and wanted it, but she clearly didnt and didnt want force either. I backed off as it wasnt for me and I didnt want to be involved in a situation that felt wrong or uncomfortable.
A question to lots of subs/slaves out there though....are you truly bi sexual or do you do it (or are thinking about it) to please your Master/Mistress or becasue your owner says so or because its the control thrill vs the sexual issue?
LightningJack wrote:
There is no actual force at least beforehand as of course we are all concensual. But once the action begins the Mistress has to make sure the guys dont back out coz they almost surely will unless she has firm control. Performing oral was worse for me than the anal. This type of play is always discussed and agreed beforehand. Does male bi play only happen in proDomme scenes, I have seen female bi play in clubs.
I am generally straight but have engaged in forced bi play on just two occasions assisting my former partner in a pro scene and also assisting a ProDomme friend of mine in Essex. I think for it to be really effective the men should be hetro.
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I would persoanlly have to be really sure at this stage that it was and is consensual. As stated I have backed away before when it felt wrong as it was a sub dom relationship, not an owner slave one and she was truly unhappy (or appeared to be) On the second part I would take this that the sex isnt the thing that is providing the thrill, it is in fact the force and control? That could mean anything you are forced to do, but maybe for some very straight men and women out there, this particular issue is close to the bone?! ( NO pun intended, lol )
LightningJack wrote:
The scene works with a very assertive Domme using verbal and physical force with liberal use of a cp implement. When I did it I needed additional stimulation, I have taken a 100mg Viagra to make sure I could get it up with another man
I wonder if anyone here has been involved in similar scenes
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I know plenty of men who use viagra when they are meeting another couple, or a single female, let alone in a situation where they know the sexual stimuli will be lacking as such. The pressure to perform nowadays seems to be a threat and everything hinges upon the actual act and not how you actually get on etc, lol! I guess thats completely right for a scene or a one off vs meeting with a view to a relationship.
Debs xx
xxDebsxx aka Ukknights_lady xx
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10 May 05, 11:05 AM Sweetiejar UK(S), 8 yrs
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LightningJack wrote:
I think for it to be really effective the men should be hetro.
I wonder if anyone here has been involved in similar scenes
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I would love to get my man in this situation, perhaps he would not love it so much....what am I thinking, he would hate it. But i would love it, it has been a long time fantasy of mine to see him with another man.
However I have to say I think it would be a hard limit for him....damn and blast!!!!
Sweetiejar Ooops!!!!!!
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10 May 05, 12:26 PM dean2001 4 yrs |
Is this really forced though? Surely you are willingly performing oral on other men. |
10 May 05, 12:36 PM dean2001 4 yrs |
If you go to a fun fair and see a scary ride, your mates can't really force you to go on it against your will.
It would be very difficult to get an adult to go on any ride against his/her will without using illegal methods (such as pointing a gun at their head and promising to kill them if they didn't get on the big dipper!)
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10 May 05, 12:36 PM madamsboy 4 yrs |
Sweetiejar wrote:
LightningJack wrote:
I think for it to be really effective the men should be hetro.
I wonder if anyone here has been involved in similar scenes
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I would love to get my man in this situation, perhaps he would not love it so much....what am I thinking, he would hate it. But i would love it, it has been a long time fantasy of mine to see him with another man.
However I have to say I think it would be a hard limit for him....damn and blast!!!!
Sweetiejar
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10 May 05, 12:38 PM madkat UK, 8 yrs Y! |
madamsboy wrote:
Sweetiejar wrote:
I would love to get my man in this situation, perhaps he would not love it so much....what am I thinking, he would hate it. But i would love it, it has been a long time fantasy of mine to see him with another man.
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And what situation would he like to see you in?? with another woman or perhaps a Tranny.
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What the fuck? |
10 May 05, 12:39 PM sc_sep UK, 4 yrs |
dean2001 wrote:
Is this really forced though? Surely you are willingly performing oral on other men.
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That goes back to the question of forced or doing something to please etc etc
Take it to the extreme absolute extremes of your hard limit/s and apply the same rule
So I think the question changes to "How hard are your hard limits"
I visited a pro-domme (that did not work out) and when asked what would I try everything - I felt myself not wanting to disappoint her and said I would try anything once - Well, she gave me a verbal tirade of be very careful how you answer that question - if there is something you will not do don't be afraid to say so
The problem is, as a sub, I don't think we can possibly think of the same amount of things to do as a dominant can |
10 May 05, 12:43 PM pinkreindeer UK, 4 yrs  |
in answer to Debs, i came out as bi when i was 17, so yep, i was bi before i was subbing...
however, i'd be much more enthusiastic if i knew i was doing it to please Chris!
pinkxxx What, after all is a halo?
It's only one more thing to keep clean.
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10 May 05, 12:45 PM Nafoui UK(BN), 7 yrs Y! |
dean2001 wrote:
Is this really forced though? Surely you are willingly performing oral on other men.
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I can see where you're comng from, you can look at it in two ways.
No it's not forced as you were willing to try it. Yes it is, as had she not been there then you wouldn't have.
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