Night time .. fictional .. probably. (19)

It had better be fictional.

Not funny at all! As someone who has been attacked and some of my close family too. I don't find this amusing in the slightest. I understand you are a sadist and it might amuse you but in the minds of your poor "victims" it would not be enjoyable at all. There is nothing Safe,sane or consensual about it so stop it NOW! P.S. I broke my attackers nose for his trouble and I would not hesitate to do it again! One pissed off subbie Lucky

Edited 10 Mar 05, 3:48 PM by lucky_1

How very amusing..... not.

My imaginary friend thinks that you have a problem

Im glad to see it isnt.

No one can be everything to everyone, but everyone wants to be something to someone.

I wish you old age, and a large unruly housing estate.

BethTVMistress
"It's a new dawn, a new day, a new life for me - and I'm feeling good!" - Nina Simone

Absolute fury that someone would find this amusing. Absolute fury that someone would think of doing this. Absolute fury that someone would actually do it.

Then I thought, maybe that's why he's posted it, to get a rise out of people. So then I thought:

How sad that someone is going to get kicks out of winding other people up like that. How pathetic that someone has so little going on in their lives that they're going to get fun out of doing that.

Then I thought about the guy himself, 'sadistical'. I wonder how he sees himself? Does he see himself as this big bad dom, making people quiver in fear, women fall onto their knees in front of him? Does he see himself as all powerful, able to frighten people?

Does he expect us to see him in the same way, I wonder? Are we supposed to be impressed with his little tale? Are we supposed to think that he's clever?

After that I wondered what he is actually like. And I reckon he's quite young, has very few, if any social skills, is actually probably quite scared of women, and has never had a girlfriend. He sits in his own room, playing on his computer, only emerging when his mother shouts out 'Come and get your tea!'

Very sad, very pathetic and totally clueless.

"There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so"
"If they give you ruled paper, write the other way"

I will post no more, and make sure that any such pieces contain disclaimers in future elsewhere.

I've seen fictional writing posted before and didn't regard this as any different - not even darker, or crueller as nothing actually happens.

I guess each to their own.

I don't find this amusing, nor would I think of doing it. The people who do commit such acts should ideally be castrated then locked away for a long time.

Not at all. Several people enjoy non-consensual fiction whilst still despising the actual reality.

Perhaps leaving it here with no disclaimer or even introduction wasn't such a great idea.

Still people who are involved in BDSM activities I'd imagine are used to the reality that what they do and other poeple's more vanilla expections and stereotypes are entirely different.

Right?

That's a pretty big assumption. I didn't intend to wind anybody up, nor do have little going on in my life.

Of course whether you choose to believe that is entirely your own affair.

Not especially. I'm just at ease with the notion of what I like. I am aroused by causing pain, nothing more and nothing less.

I'm sure there are lots of similar people out there after all the term sadist is used to describe them ..

It's clear that nobody really took it in the manner I intended it, which I can see now was my fault.

I wasn't expecting people to be impressed or view me in any particular manner.

I live alone (well cute Cat) am not too young, and have had multiple long term and short term girlfriends.

I have good social skills.

I'm not scared for women.

I'm actually fairly amused that you react with these personal insinuations.

I'm sorry for the offence I've cause to all the people who took the time to condem actions (almost) described in the post itself. If I met a sexual predator/rapist/flasher I'd also want them to be locked up. Having never been attacked personally I don't know what that feels like, but it's not something I'd wish on anybody friend or stranger alike.

Non-consensual acts are appalling.

There are things that I enjoy which involve *acting* out non-consensual scenarios but that's different and the whole is something that must be agreed in advance.

Personally I respect other people, and whilst I've not specifically replied to the other people who took the time to voice their concerns or discomfort I had to respond to you if only to ask why you would make such personal comments?

I'd understand if you had said 'sick and wrong' although those things vary from person to person (albeit I'm sure some things such as rape/murder must be universally wrong). But to take it further and suggest that I'm some kind of basement person afraid of women is a little bit much.

That is of course your judgement and you are welcome to it.

Regardless I'm sorry that I've caused offense, sorry that I didn't put a disclaimer, and sorry that you felt you needed to attack me personally in such a clueless fashion.

I shall trouble you no more.

I think having a section of the site for fiction is actually a good idea; perhaps Tanos might like to add it to his very long list!

You're right... nothing actually DOES happen. So why has it invoked the response that it has? Quite clearly the writer relishes what he's doing (it's very well written in that sense). He also talks about these women very much as though they are objects, not real people, which is disturbing. He is more interested in how they react to what he's doing, so it's a very self obsessed piece. It's also very cruel - you say that nothing actually happens - but it does - these women are being scared and frightened. That you can't see that is also worrying!

Finally, there is also the implicit threat of violence or rape in the last few words, coupled with the fact that the writer thinks it is amusing.

That's what I don't like about it.. the idea that violence towards women, scaring and frightening women is amusing, and something fun to it.

I will admit that it's very well written - to evoke all that in a few lines *is* good writing. However, I hope that I'm never that good, nor do I want to associate with anyone who is. If it's fiction (and I really hope that it is) then I an manage without it.

Thanks for your considered response as well. (Edit: to refer to your post back one rather than the one immediately preceeding this one. That you think I'm clueless worries me not at all; it's the downside of being an opinionated sod.)

"There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so"
"If they give you ruled paper, write the other way"

Edited 10 Mar 05, 6:15 PM by Jaggery

Good idea

Sorry .. yes I see what you mean there, and you are correct. The women being frightened does happen, and I do see that.

What I had meant to say is that nothing [i]explicit[/i] happens, and yes I guess it does come across as being self-obsessed although that was an intepretation I'd not honestly noticed or considered in the past.

I've written a lot of fiction, some fluffy and light, some very explicit and detailed, and I'd always considered this one a personal favourite - not for any of the reasons that you notice though.

For me it [i]is[/i] fun to do (men and women alike!) - but [i]only[/i] in a consensual idea. I have no idea what actually motivates a rapist and honestly I don't really wish to know.

I wouldn't be suprised if the thoughts and feelings aren't similar though in truth that's something I don't really wish to explore in any actual detail.

Thanks for that, I'm not really sure if it's better or worse than my usual writing, although like I said before it is a favourite.

It is most certainly fictional though, I have never attacked a women or a man, and if I did I would hope I would be locked away with the key thrown away - that's what I'd like to see happen to all the sick people who do commit such crimes.

I've obviously touched a nerve here with some, if not all , reactions being negative.

In one sense that's incredible good because such crimes are wrong and the perpetrators should be abhorred. In another sense it's frustrating that people assume the worst - but I guess I did make it easy for them to reach that conclusion. So the error is mine.

As for opinions .. that's the great thing, there's one for everybody!

I don't hold it against you - less personal "attacks" would be good, but I can't really blame you. So no hard feelings on my side.

i hope you would get the same kick from a group of men doing exactly the same to you, as a man...will they attack you and hurt you? will they pull you into an alleyway and rape you? will they 'simply' continue to follow you like this and play mental games with you?

i hope to god you have neither a female partner nor daughter...and if you are so genuinely sorry for causing offense, might be a good idea to remove it

freedom of speech -v- an ignorant piece of writing, i guess its your choice

Edited 10 Mar 05, 6:32 PM by tryst