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6 Feb 12, 2:04 PM
PrinceD
SE, 4 mths
we use different websites.
6 Feb 12, 2:04 PM
MisstressvsSolicedog
UK(NN), 17 mths
yeah i agree with liybee,,

There well maybe aspect of her past relationship that she has'nt realised that she has to let go off,

because and given the amount of time plus the children that they once had together,,

and he almost certainly still know's how to pull a few string's with her,,

it sound's slightly more complex on the emotional level,,

Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish

6 Feb 12, 2:06 PM
PrinceD
SE, 4 mths
I dont get that but i would like to.
6 Feb 12, 2:06 PM
PrinceD
SE, 4 mths
PrinceD wrote:
I dont get that but i would like to.

6 Feb 12, 2:15 PM
Ro_Laren
UK(S), 3 yrs
pixie15_CJ_s wrote:
valleyrose17 wrote:
as usual there are two sides to every story

no!!! usually there are 3 sides

his

hers

somewhere in the middle ..usually know as the truth

Not if one of them is lying.

6 Feb 12, 2:16 PM
jules9
UK(CH), 3 yrs

PrinceD wrote:
*snipped a lot*

so that is it, she did not lie she manipulated the truth.

So my Dilemma is this, can a sub change doms or will she always be her first doms sub.

If she has agreed to give you control over choices regarding her children and how she and her ex parent them, then you entirely have a right to be upset (I'm deliberately not going to go off onto a tangent about my thoughts on the rights and wrongs of that situation without knowing a hell of a lot more).

If she hasn't agreed that, which sounds like the case here, then you need to seriously reassess your role as her dominant. If a new Dom tried to play around controlling the single most important thing in a parents life, then I think the parent would be more than Justified to tell that "Dom" exactly where to go. Part of being a good Dom is understanding where his subs limits really are. I get the impression you vastly misJudged on this occasion.

It must be very difficult to know someone had a very deep level of submission to someone before, and know that that person is still a huge part of their lives. It must be difficult not to let that overwhelm thought processes and see things that are genuinely not there. Based on what you have written and my interpretation of it, you need to think if you can handle what she was offering and if you can, get yourself a damn good apology sorted out.

Once you appreciate her boundaries, and start earning her trust you'll know without doubt the answer to your last question.

Give her the support and the environment to be your submissive. D/s relationships break down Just like vanilla ones. If all subs who'd already had a Dom had to stop dating because they still belonged to that first Dom, then there'd be a very, very, very large group of single female subs....

Good luck.

XxX

6 Feb 12, 2:43 PM
littlenic
5 yrs
Perhaps she just didn't want to go to the party. And she knew you did, so she thought perhaps it would be easier to pretend it was on a weekend you couldn't make it so she wouldn't have to disappoint you.

Have you asked her why she fibbed? It may have nothing to do with her ex at all, except that when he asked to change their childcare arrangements it gave her a handy 'out'.

6 Feb 12, 3:39 PM
Abraxus
UK(WC), 12 yrs
PrinceD wrote:
I suppose here is my biggest question, Is a sub always her first doms sub? on the point that it was the day that is not the case, i had no idea the party was then, she had deceived me in to thinking it was a weekend when I had responsibility for our girls, i love them and wont dump them for a spankfest no matter how much fun it is. so again can she change master or am i wasting my time on another doms sub?

I think the first question you need to be asking yourself is whether you're a dom because that's the way you are, or are you just being one because you think that's what she wants?

Did the relationship start on the basis of you looking for a submissive girfriend, or just as a girfriend who turned out to be submissive whose needs you're now trying to accomodate?

If it's the latter then one way or another you're always going to end up manipulated, but if the former then you probably need to take more control.

It may not be a case of her being unable to change doms, or even manupulating you, but instead a case of her ex manipulating you both.

Without all the details, it's really hard to know what her motivations were. In fact, as I understand it, her actions weren't as a result of her trying to do something behind your back, without you, but instead were aimed at the two of you being together, albeit not at the party. Which you then scuppered by going to the party on your own.

Perhaps then she was aware of the influence of her ex, and wished to break free of it, and so didn't want to go to a party which represented her old life, with him, and instead preferred to be with you and away from all that.

You probably need to talk to her about it and ask why she didn't want to go to the party and why she acted as she did.

6 Feb 12, 6:06 PM
ladydreams
UK(CR), 3 yrs



Not!

I could spend my life in this sweet surrender - Aerosmith

6 Feb 12, 8:32 PM
Perplexion
13 mths
Ohhhh FFS!!!! Different websites or not, she is on the scene and you are discussing her daughters. It takes very little for us to know who is being discussed online, you know?

The children have to come first if you get together with a single mum and whatever the arrangement about that with her ex, it's something any new partner has to fit in with.

That's how it works whether the ex is dom/sub/switch or even bloody vanilla. They are co-parents and yes, that will always be an issue.

Edited 6 Feb 12, 11:16 PM by Perplexion

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