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3 Feb 12, 5:10 PM
Lady_Juliette
UK(BS), 5 mths
£
Stop wasting your time on it. The scams from Nigeria are well known.
3 Feb 12, 5:10 PM
rehtael_ni_dal*
UK(G), 9 yrs
humiliation_slave80 wrote:
I got another e mail from the lady in Nigeria ..... what is her scam?. This is the email

" Good morning slave, yesterday i was a bit disappointed by the UK home affairs, my work visa would take longer time, they said the government has passed a circular to the home affairs and to all embassy officials to be strict with the visa because of the london 2012. And i have engaged in a beauty shop where i had a slave managing it for me before i decided to travel back home to secure a working visa. I also sell antiques online to masters and mistresses who are interested in buying, our country is rich in lots of arts and crafts antiques here, so i do trade them, and i make use of my slave's account to run the business. But i have hooked him up with another mistress and he would be travelling out of UK soon. I have about £1500 capital with him, but since i am not coming to UK soon, i need someone to continue working for me as my accountant before my arrival. My slave is leaving, so i approached you to see if you can help me be doing the task. It is as good as working from home. All you need is to set up an account where i have all my trading get credited, and i will give you commission on transaction if you are dedicated. There is no way i can raise money for my long term health insurance without this business. And this health insurance would take me £5000 and this would make me have more points in securing the UK visa. If you agree with me, you may give me your bank details, so i can have him transfer the money to you before my slave leaves for his mistress. It is not a job that takes your time nor your energy. All i need is just inform you when payments are coming in, and then you take your commission thats all, but you have to check your emails regularly. If you need a separate account for this, i can have him send you £20 at first to open an account, then later i will have him send the subsequent ones to you. Let me know if you are ready to work for me. Mistress "

Need I go on?

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire (François-Marie Arouet (21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778)

3 Feb 12, 5:12 PM
HandyD
UK(M), 6 yrs

humiliation_slave80 wrote:
I got another e mail from the lady in Nigeria ..... what is her scam?. This is the email <snip> you when payments are coming in, and then you take your commission thats all, but you have to check your emails regularly. If you need a separate account for this, i can have him send you £20 at first to open an account, then later i will have him send the subsequent ones to you. Let me know if you are ready to work for me. Mistress "

DON'T and I mean DON'T ever give anyone your bank details.

This is plain and simple a 419 scam. Just google "419 scam" if you don't know what that means. Just delete her emails unread.

And also remember on the advice of our beloved admin -

(Please read the cautions on About Personal Ads before responding to an advert. In particular, "Flat 51, 17 Holywell Hill, St Albans, AL1 1DT" is a mailbox address used by a persistent scam artist.)

That person tried to ask me for tribute for her photos after 3 emails on freedating.

3 Feb 12, 5:18 PM
Boundini
UK(BB), 2 yrs
JustTony wrote:

Personally, I've hardly ever been killed by anyone on the internet.

You're obviously not looking on the right sites then. :-D.

3 Feb 12, 5:48 PM
TheMarquise
UK, 6 yrs
Surely this correspondence tells you all you need to know about these individuals intentions? My response on reading it is something along the lines of 'what a pile of croc, I do not owe you a living, go fuck yourself'.

Ok, I am reading it as a domme. However, just because you identify as a submissive, that does not equate to you needing to entertain the notion/put up with the idea that the most you can expect is to be exploited when you advertise your inclinations.

It is sad for me to think that some submissive men are desperate enough to continue corresponding with those concerned, after receiving this type of communication. Would these people go to the effort of writing to you if there wasn't at least some occasions when they gain a financial return? Who is falling for this distortion of all that Fem Dom can be?

You have an interest in being dominated that does not make you worthless, or a victim!

Think about it, why on earth should you fund this person? Unless for whatever reason you have a kink of giving away money to a stranger, and god help you if you have, why would someone greedily grasping for money in this way result in anything but anger, sorrow or as @Man for Seasons has contributed on this thread, humour?

If you wish to pay to be dominated, there is plenty of information out there for you to be able to receive the service that you are looking for. Do not throw your money after bad, it is just incredibly stupid.

I detest people being exploited but I also wonder at men who do decide to waste money on these kinds of offers. I understand desperation and gullibility but adult men need to take responsibility for themselves, and make adult choices, or otherwise not expect pity when it all goes tits up!

If there was no demand there would not be a supply for this notion of 'I am domme, therefore men who wish to interact with me must pay for the privilege' never mind those who are not domme and intend to give you nothing, other than to fleece you. If more sub men did not entertain this kind of overture, either by ignoring or telling the individual that what they are doing is despicable, there would less submissives bothered in the future by this kind of manipulative attempt to prey on their position.

I cannot see how anything this person has written would show they have an interest in domination, as understood in the BDSM sense. They do clearly indicate they are interested in one thing in life - cash. Yours. Have your erotic desires met by all means, by an upfront exchange with a reputable pro dom. There are plenty of pro doms who do an excellent and not always easy job of meeting their client's needs. No shame in that, either side of the exchange, despite how some people seem hell bent on castigating the profession.

This has nothing to do with the kind of communication you received. What an insult that having identified as a man interested in being submissive, this is how you are treated! Tell the unscrupulous, who see our world as an easy way to make a fast buck to take a flying jump. The negative effects of these types of approaches and exchanges, when taken seriously can not be underestimated.

Edited 3 Feb 12, 5:52 PM by TheMarquise

3 Feb 12, 5:56 PM
JustTony
UK(L), 17 mths
humiliation_slave80 wrote:
I got another e mail from the lady in Nigeria ..... what is her scam?

You said that this 'lady' asked you for over £8,000? And you still need to ask that question?

I hate to burst your bubble, really I do- but you probably haven't had any emails from a lady. But even if she is female, she's probably not remotely interested in D/s.

The fact that she seems far more interested in the contents of your bank account than the contents of your underpants should be setting off some alarm bells in that romance-fuddled mind of yours.

If you are really serious, and not just winding everyone up, my advice would be to stay off the internet until you've taken some lessons in healthy cynicism, otherwise you and your money will not have the pleasure of each other's acquaintance for very much longer.

4 Feb 12, 12:34 AM
humiliation_slave80
UK, 20 mths
JustTony wrote:
humiliation_slave80 wrote:
I got another e mail from the lady in Nigeria ..... what is her scam?

You said that this 'lady' asked you for over £8,000? And you still need to ask that question?

I hate to burst your bubble, really I do- but you probably haven't had any emails from a lady. But even if she is female, she's probably not remotely interested in D/s.

The fact that she seems far more interested in the contents of your bank account than the contents of your underpants should be setting off some alarm bells in that romance-fuddled mind of yours.

If you are really serious, and not just winding everyone up, my advice would be to stay off the internet until you've taken some lessons in healthy cynicism, otherwise you and your money will not have the pleasure of each other's acquaintance for very much longer.

4 Feb 12, 12:36 AM
humiliation_slave80
UK, 20 mths
TrustMe tony I have no intention of sending any money

humiliation_slave80 wrote:
I got another e mail from the lady in Nigeria ..... what is her scam?

You said that this 'lady' asked you for over £8,000? And you still need to ask that question?

I hate to burst your bubble, really I do- but you probably haven't had any emails from a lady. But even if she is female, she's probably not remotely interested in D/s.

The fact that she seems far more interested in the contents of your bank account than the contents of your underpants should be setting off some alarm bells in that romance-fuddled mind of yours.

If you are really serious, and not just winding everyone up, my advice would be to stay off the internet until you've taken some lessons in healthy cynicism, otherwise you and your money will not have the pleasure of each other's acquaintance for very much longer.

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4 Feb 12, 1:00 AM
Black0rchid
UK, 2 yrs

JustTony wrote:
I encountered some relatively normal people on Fetlife (and met a few in person), and a much smaller number on Collarme ...

This ^^^^. Interested to know what constitutes the definition of "normal" on a fetish website!

The word "normal" surely doesn't really exist except as a value judgment (as it is by defintion influenced by culture and time periods). Therefore I'm wondering what I have to do to be considered "normal" on a fetish website; ordinarily considered an abnormal place to be by mainstream, conservative, biggots; or the traditional "norm" which habit society and wank furiously over our pictures at night and then condemn them in the daytime or at the polling booths!

Edited 4 Feb 12, 1:01 AM by Black0rchid

4 Feb 12, 1:06 AM
Black0rchid
UK, 2 yrs

Lady_Juliette wrote:
Stop wasting your time on it. The scams from Nigeria are well known.

Slightly unfair. Only today I found out I had a great uncle who has been killed in a tragic crach and apparently I am the only surviving relative. I am further excited by realising that I only need to send my bank account details and a letter of authority confirming who I am together with my birth certificate and the sum of (large amount of dosh) will be deposited into my account as the only surviving heir.

You can imagine, as I had no idea who this uncle was or that I was the main beneficiary to his will, I am quite elated at the moment.

It's so rare to have good news on the net from strangers these days.

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