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30 Jan 12, 5:45 PM
Ropework
UK(OX), 3 yrs

AnEnglishMaster wrote:
IF you strode down the High St in my town, with a beard and wearing a mini and heels, and a child of mine of immature years were confronted with that sight, I would expect them to ask me questions - questions which I should NOT have to be forced to answer, purely because of another person's desire to do as they please.

I disagree most emphatically! Yes, perhaps the child would ask questions, but by the nature of having a child, you are in fact forced to answer questions that child may have about the world. What a conceited notion you have, of people having to limit themselves in entirely harmless behaviours just so you don't have to engage with your child about a matter that might seem complicated to you!

(An aside: what's so tricky about this? Simply tell the child that here's a guy who enjoys wearing clothes that are mostly worn by women. "Why?"- "Well, I don't know. Maybe he finds it exciting to dress up?" ... Problem solved)

If I get children, I will face situations of embarrasment all the time because they see things that lead to questions that are hard to answer: Why do so many people believe in an invisible man in the sky? Is it really him or one of his deputies that brings Christmas presents? ("No, my child, those are presents from your parents who love you, not some white-bearded invisible creep with the nose of a drunkard and the disturbing cheerfulness of a clown".)

Respectfully,

:-:-: Ropework :-:-:

30 Jan 12, 6:06 PM
Smartarse
UK(CM), 7 yrs
Won't anyone think of the poor horses..

..put into bondage, whipped and ridden - and where is their consent?!!

30 Jan 12, 6:10 PM
AnEnglishMaster
UK(ME), 5 yrs
Ropework wrote:
What a conceited notion you have, of people having to limit themselves in entirely harmless behaviours

Perhaps so.

Is it any more or less conceited than your determination that such activity IS "entirely harmless behaviour"?

A genuine question.

I also note that you don't have children. I hope you do, should you wish that. And I think you will find that, once a person does, their perspectives on life do alter subtly.

Respectfully

English

"It may be that your sole purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others" - Anon
"A true Dominant wants to lift his submissive up, not do her down" - AnEnglishMaster

30 Jan 12, 6:24 PM
Juantastic
UK(CH), 22 mths

AnEnglishMaster wrote:
Ropework wrote:
What a conceited notion you have, of people having to limit themselves in entirely harmless behaviours

Perhaps so.

Is it any more or less conceited than your determination that such activity IS "entirely harmless behaviour"?

A genuine question.

I also note that you don't have children. I hope you do, should you wish that. And I think you will find that, once a person does, their perspectives on life do alter subtly.

Respectfully

English

I have children (okay, a child.) I would not relish having to field the awkward question, but I would answer it as candidly as I could, in terms that I felt he would be able to understand. Would I see it as harmful? Absolutely not. I will consider him harmed if someone attempts to touch him sexually, or if someone intentionally performs a sexual act in front of him (by which I mean acts such as masturbation or penetration, not simply dressing oddly.)

Looking at her Facebook posts, my niece was already well aware of the various sexualities, transvestism, and BDSM at around age 12, though chances are that she didn't fully understand them. The point is that you can't wrap them in cotton wool these days - not unless you bin the television and make sure that they have no friends.

Edited 30 Jan 12, 6:25 PM by Juantastic

30 Jan 12, 11:33 PM
millyxx
UK(M), 12 mths

Embarrassment/humiliation can be a strong emotion, mainly governed by conditioning i believe. Whatever form it takes, it can cause intense feelings of outrage and fear. We all have our own special places that are hard to go - however i do feel there is a place for humiliation, it can be just as direct as any type of pain inflicted, and the effects usually last much longer.

My own personal embarrassments, if you want to call them that, are difficult to overcome, however to be made to face them and carry them out is can be very exhilarating and one step closer to unquestionable submission. Which feels good - to me anyway xx

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Edited 31 Jan 12, 12:10 AM by millyxx

7 Feb 12, 3:43 PM
Ropework
UK(OX), 3 yrs

AnEnglishMaster wrote:
Is it any more or less conceited than your determination that such activity IS "entirely harmless behaviour"?

A genuine question.

For god's sake, what's wrong with you? The example you gave was "[...] strode down the High St in my town, with a beard and wearing a mini and heels".

In what way is that not fucking harmless behaviour?!

See, that's what makes me despair: here we are, in an online forum about people's sexual interest, supposedly at the most tolerant end of the spectrum of attitudes, and nonetheless there are people who honestly cannot see that social conventions (such as about men's and women's clothes) are just that: conventions, without any inherent moral or normative value.

YES, it is entirely harmless behaviour to dress a bit differently from other people. After all, this country is not (yet) a concentration camp!

:-:-: Ropework :-:-:

7 Feb 12, 3:47 PM
Captain_Sensible
UK(WV), 20 mths

Smartarse wrote:
Won't anyone think of the poor horses..

..put into bondage, whipped and ridden - and where is their consent?!!

Some animals will do anything to get their oats.

To Honor! if you can't come in her, come on her!

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