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Dom's with axes to grind. AF=QED (25)

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24 Jan 12, 12:24 PM
Shypeachybottom
UK, 20 mths
tallulahme wrote:
I have witnessed and heard of some horror stories, (both Dom's and subs can be guilty), and yes inevitably some get validation from longevity in the scene and notoriety.

I thought this point was important, that both Doms and subs can be guilty of this.

There are people who are poorly behaved and try to take advantage of or abuse others - and that should be condemned

But we always need to remember that there are three sides to any story, "his" (subjective truth), "her" (subjective truth) and "the (slightly more objective) truth" (typically being somewhere between his and her versions). And unless you have been "in the thick" of a situation, you don't know all of the ins and outs, your standards/beliefs may influence your perception of whether someone has acted inappropriately or not, you probably have only heard one side of the story, and you may therefore be basing yourself on less than perfect information when making your mind up about who the "baddie" is.

I think it is a very delicate balance to strike between condemning those who truly act badly by anyone's standards, and badmouthing those who might simply have "bad press" for whatever reason. There is a reason that the legal standard is "innocent until proven guilty" you know...

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24 Jan 12, 12:35 PM
littlenic
5 yrs
You may not have "named names", but using an obscure phrase also used recently here by someone else makes your target actually crystal clear.

There's all sorts of crappy behaviour in the world. Having a dig at someone whilst pretending to be generalising, and attempting to subvert the AUP, are just two of them.

Edited 24 Jan 12, 12:39 PM by littlenic

24 Jan 12, 12:36 PM
Perplexion
13 mths
Yup, it's just group dynamics with extra knobs on due to the D/ and /s personality traits and social needs that go with those.

idonna wrote:
I think this behaviour is not unique to BDSM, is unhealthy, yet manipulating like that people get sympathy everywhere - from primary school to old folks home (and in between including your average workplace)

Daddy_Wolf wrote:
Ama_Sidero wrote:
Perplexion wrote:
Isn't this 'without naming names' post an example of the behaviour you're complaining about ...?

Sounds very much like it, doesn't it?

Maybe this is why nothing gets done from preventing this behaviour when it is always turned back around onto the person who raises the subject hmm? Should we all just turn a blind eye and pretend we don't care? Maybe we dont???? Damned if we do, damned if we don't springs to mind.

24 Jan 12, 1:41 PM
KnightToDreams
UK(CW), 3 yrs

Yeh it something you just love when an ex does there level best to destroy you, mind it's to be expected from time to time and as I say all is fair in love and war.

The thing I have more of a problem with Is my partners ex s trying to do the same as they ve wanted their ex sub / domme back. Also when their friends and family seem to want to get involved constantly , sorry but it's none of their business

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24 Jan 12, 1:47 PM
Flogher
UK(RM), 9 yrs

KnightToDreams wrote:
Yeh it something you just love when an ex does there level best to destroy you, mind it's to be expected from time to time and as I say all is fair in love and war.

The thing I have more of a problem with Is my partners ex s trying to do the same as they ve wanted their ex sub / domme back. Also when their friends and family seem to want to get involved constantly , sorry but it's none of their business

On a point of order... at no point have I ever suggested it was an ex-. I have not even used a gender term.

But you DO raise a fair point!

Thank you.

Flogher - I cane, I whip, I cuddle

24 Jan 12, 1:53 PM
Mastermicheal
UK(TN), 12 mths
well been their and been on the receiving end, been going on for two and a half years, now, just best to turn your back, i know it is hard, but you have to, the more they see you getting annoyed, the more they persist, in the end they make fools of them selves, like crying wolf, to much and no one be leaves them, so all be hard and ignore.
24 Jan 12, 2:09 PM
Flogher
UK(RM), 9 yrs

Mastermicheal wrote:
well been their and been on the receiving end, been going on for two and a half years, now, just best to turn your back, i know it is hard, but you have to, the more they see you getting annoyed, the more they persist, in the end they make fools of them selves, like crying wolf, to much and no one be leaves them, so all be hard and ignore.

I totally agree with you. You'd think that after so many years they would drop it, wouldn't they? I cannot name the person but I can try and shame them into some civilised behavior by letting people know it is going on.

I have kept quiet about this for five months since it started. The author did not 'back off' and took my silence for weakness. I had three different ones on the go in just two days last week and that's when I decided I had to go public. Clearly my dignified silence does not work in stopping this.

I received a personal e-mail earlier suggesting that I may appear paranoid. I quite agree. However a paranoid person merely THINKS they are on the wrong end of something. A paranoid person does not have screen shots and a growing file of phony stolen photos.

I may post another faker off-site later (a different name) - if I can be bothered. I have five others to choose from...

Flogher - I cane, I whip, I cuddle

Edited 24 Jan 12, 2:10 PM by Flogher

24 Jan 12, 2:37 PM
nastybstd
UK(LU), 6 yrs

Bitching, moaning, downtalking others in general might seem at first glance, a positive move towards fixing your issue.

However I can assure you this much. Any negative talk of any kind is seen by others as a negative towards the person passing on his "opinion" read gossip.

Might I suggest you dont let these things bother you and rise above the bullshit often heard at clubs, munches and events.

If anyone asks for an opinion regarding another person I try and focus on the positives if I know any. The only opinion I can express is my own personal experiences. Gossiping about what someone else has said or done learned from a third source no matter who this is, should not be practiced.

So. I dont know who you are talking about so this is easy for me. Unless you were dating or playing with the person in question I suggest you dont say anything.

I have met with a few nutters in my time (in my opinion). God only knows what disasters may have happened if I carried on seeing these people or worse, developed a relationship. But I take the attitude that they were simply not for me and that with another person they might find total happiness and contentment.

Gossip is bad. Simple.

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24 Jan 12, 3:18 PM
Ama_Sidero
UK(GU), 7 yrs


Daddy_Wolf wrote:
Ama_Sidero wrote:
Perplexion wrote:
Isn't this 'without naming names' post an example of the behaviour you're complaining about ...?

Sounds very much like it, doesn't it?

Maybe this is why nothing gets done from preventing this behaviour when it is always turned back around onto the person who raises the subject hmm? Should we all just turn a blind eye and pretend we don't care? Maybe we dont???? Damned if we do, damned if we don't springs to mind.

No, personally, IF I ever hear a "whispering campaign" then I stick up for people or say something. Which is WHY, I hardly ever hear a whispering campaign.

But, what you have just done is exactly the same thing. Which is WHY we have said something.

Could it possibly be that the other people who are you are protesting against feel that they are doing exactly the same thing you are?

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