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St. Norman and the Estuary Airport Project (4)

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SublimeDecadence
Posted by SublimeDecadence on Sun 22 Jan 12, 2:28 PM to the Informed_Debate group.

So now he wants to build another airport and he is out busily raising support from anyone who will listen.

Government in this country is supposed to govern for the benefit of the people, not London, not the south east but the people. That means ALL of the people of the UK. Allowing such an unbalanced investment in the country's infrastructure is not just incompetence, it is an abuse of power by government that could be catagorised as corruption in my view.

Those in power have a duty and responsibility to govern fairly and without favour for the benefit of all the people. This is a duty that has been in place since Magna Carta, and the legality of it was reiterated with the removal of Edward II and later enhanced by Henry VI. The monarchy can no longer dictate how the country is run but the problem is still the same if it is left unchecked, that those in power generally feather their own nests. In recent years we have seen the most blatant examples from people like Blair and Mandleson, now we are seeing it again with Lansley and his NHS crusade.

Enter St Norman Foster and the Estuary Airport Project

Foster says we all need the Victorian spirit and values – who is he kidding? He frequently portrays himself as one of the 'great and good' and he is giving this project his total support, he is in fact, one of the prime motivators for it! He says that he has a vision for the UK. Well, good for him!

The probable reality is that for him, this is a vanity project that will also net him and his political and business cronies millions (or billions) whilst providing another monstrosity that will end up billions over budget and will not help the environment or infrastructure, it will simply create more congestion and pollution in the south east whilst at the same time deprive other areas of new stimulants for their local economies.

OK, a bill was passed in 1973 allowing the building of an airport in the estuary but the whole issue was investigated again in 2002 to 2005 in the Government's Aviation White Paper. All the key players, including the aviation industry, contributed. The idea of an airport in the Thames Estuary was conclusively ruled out and later upheld by the High Court. The investigation found that an estuary airport did not make sense economically, and that it would not meet the needs of the aviation industry or the wider business community.

The report also found that with regard to the environment it would create a significantly higher risk of 'bird strike' than at any other major airport in the UK. It was also concluded at the time that it would be the biggest act of environmental vandalism ever undertaken in the UK.

Recently he (Foster) has added Cameron to his cause which once again illustrates the fickleness and hypocrisy of our political elite. Cameron stated that he would work hard to remove the gulf between the north/south divide (that's nice), now he states he is supporting the proposal for an estuary airport which will of course exacerbate the north/south problem.

For those of us not living in the south east we see the constant drain of resources originally designed for other areas being diverted to the south east at the behest of meddling politicians on behalf of the vested interests and of course it's always at our expense!

Is Dave falling into the ego trap with his support for Fosters vanity? Or has he decided to support his old mate Boris or, are there other, more beneficial reasons why he would change his mind about the north south divide? The rest of the country may like to know, I for one, certainly would.

Edited Sun 22 Jan 12, 2:29 PM by SublimeDecadence

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22 Jan 12, 2:53 PM
Muzzlehatch
UK(TN), 7 yrs

A quicker and cheaper option would be to develop the existing airport, the former RAF Manston. Conviently situated close to two high speed rail links into London, and easy enough to link into the M2.

To develop this would be significantly cheaper, and allow for expansion of airports in different parts of the country, for the same capital outlay.

Unfortunately common sense rarely prevales, when the egos of polititions seeking a legacy comes into play.

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22 Jan 12, 5:42 PM
SublimeDecadence
UK(WR), 5 yrs

Muzzlehatch wrote:
A quicker and cheaper option would be to develop the existing airport, the former RAF Manston. Conviently situated close to two high speed rail links into London, and easy enough to link into the M2.

To develop this would be significantly cheaper, and allow for expansion of airports in different parts of the country, for the same capital outlay.

Unfortunately common sense rarely prevales, when the egos of polititions seeking a legacy comes into play.

Perhaps it is a better option for those in the south east. The question is what about the north west and the north east and the midlands and the south west, are they not entitled to see some investment in their areas?

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22 Jan 12, 6:44 PM
mq1965
UK(DA), 8 yrs
SublimeDecadence wrote:
For those of us not living in the south east we see the constant drain of resources originally designed for other areas being diverted to the south east at the behest of meddling politicians on behalf of the vested interests and of course it's always at our expense!

There are plenty of people living in the south east who would equally oppose an expansion of airport capacity in the south east, however it is done. The area is already over crowded with resources such as water and road space near breaking point, it really doesn't need more economic expansion, which can only come at a huge cost to quality of life.

If airport expansion is needed at all, which is questionable, it would seem more sensible to do it in the north and try to draw more business to areas that have the capacity to expand without straining infrastructure to breaking point. I believe the north east has at some point put in a bid for an airport on these lines.

The demand for expansion in the south east is almost entirely driven by business leaders who can still afford to isolate themselves from the effects of overcrowding and who fail to grasp the difference between getting richer and improving quality of life.

Edited 22 Jan 12, 6:46 PM by mq1965

22 Jan 12, 9:22 PM
Empress_Martine
UK(HA), 2 yrs
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We really do not need this new airport and as already suggested,an existing RAF or similar airport could be developed.What we really need is new roads etc and government and Norman Foster have forgot about those world war two barges,submerged and full of exposives!If this lot went off then cost more to compensate the local population then the cost of the basic groundwork to start the project!What we need is new roads,local and national rail services but not the business only HS2.We need the airport like a hole in the head!! It would be just another conduit for illegal aliens to get into the country.

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Edited 22 Jan 12, 9:40 PM by Empress_Martine

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