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| 21 Jan 12, 10:32 AM Calimero_rslw UK(DE), 23 mths  |
I have a lot of oral sex... I get swabbed every visit and as yet have never caught a thing.. If a guy asked me to do it with a condom on I would decline. Yes you can but it is not really that often people do...I think that with most Std figures its designed to make people think, which is a good thing..but your responsible for your own sexual health..and choose what risks your prepared to take.. Is it a safe.. well the only safe sex is no sex.. just decide the levels your prepared to take the risk at. Cali I am and always have been my Masters Slave, from the day I was born I was his. I just didn't realise it till My Master claimed me. | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 10:42 AM naughtyskibunny UK(SW), 2 yrs |
After a lot, without defining a lot, I guess you are just lucky and reasonably careful about what goes in your mouth! Sugar and spice and all things nice are what I 'could' be made of... | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 10:52 AM Calimero_rslw UK(DE), 23 mths |
I am careful.. I have a good look and smell.. and yes I know somethings dont have symptoms I decide.. I would say triple figures in last year and I do get checked often.. I also use a medicated mouthwash after.. but I have never ever caught anything either.. but doesnt make me complacent about it.. I still go every month.. get a full check over.. I before I was in my late 20s never ever bothered with safe sex at all... but have been much more sensible since....I would rather not have oral sex than do it with a condom.. as it just means that it is actually not enjoyable as there would be no end result. Cali I am and always have been my Masters Slave, from the day I was born I was his. I just didn't realise it till My Master claimed me. | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 10:52 AM spankee_1 UK(BH), 8 yrs |
Get real!! Chlamydia doesn't kill you!! Being a survivor of cervical cancer this is a subject very close to my heart and absolutely hate it if anyone tries to make light of it!!! Good subject OP and one that definitely needs highlighting, I too saw the programme when it first screened until that time I had absolutely no idea the HPV virus could also cause oral cancers and no matter how low the risk there is a risk. Having the inoculation for HPV will only stop you from getting a new strain, so if you have a strain of the virus already it will not give protection against it although still worth being vaccinated if you can afford it.
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| 21 Jan 12, 10:56 AM Mistress_Hippolyta UK(PL), 19 mths |
Oh, when I read that sentence somehow I thought it ended 'level of risk depending on whether the recipient enjoyed it'. | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 11:18 AM naughtyskibunny UK(SW), 2 yrs |
Glad to hear you are happy and know what you want. And I thought the rumours of women who actually loved to give head just for its own sake, were false and propagated by desperate men (mind you, that assumes your partners are male) :o) I am in awe of your jaw...triple figures! Don't think medically speaking that a mouthwash would do much even seconds after but I'm sure it's a good practice in itself. Who doesn't like a nice clean fresh mouth feel. If you are happy and the person on the other end is happy (and why on earth wouldn't they be from the sound of it) then it sounds like you have a recipe for your own personal bliss and fun. Xx quote=Calimero_rslw]
I am careful.. I have a good look and smell.. and yes I know somethings dont have symptoms I decide.. I would say triple figures in last year and I do get checked often.. I also use a medicated mouthwash after.. but I have never ever caught anything either.. but doesnt make me complacent about it.. I still go every month.. get a full check over.. I before I was in my late 20s never ever bothered with safe sex at all... but have been much more sensible since....I would rather not have oral sex than do it with a condom.. as it just means that it is actually not enjoyable as there would be no end result. Cali [/quote]
Sugar and spice and all things nice are what I 'could' be made of... | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 11:23 AM naughtyskibunny UK(SW), 2 yrs |
It can make you infertile though, but like you say, cervical cancer, now that's a biggie. And often just as silent. I agree with you, about the highlighting. I knew somewhere in the recesses of a lecture memory about the oral cancer risk but am very glad to be reminded, thanks OP.
Generally to consider something high risk enough to mention to a patient it is a risk of no less than 1%. That obviously can't be the case here, so I'm curious, to anyone who watched the programme, was any kind of stat given?
Sugar and spice and all things nice are what I 'could' be made of... | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 11:36 AM FreeKinker UK(PE), 10 yrs  |
I haven't seen the programme. The problem with a lot of such programmes is that they tell sad stories with the implication that the same could happen to you, but fail to put the risk in context. For one thing these cases need to be seen in the context of the percentage of the population that indulge in oral sex which I think would be quite high. I believe you have to be able to consider the risk in context, and the general understanding that living at all entails risk. I suspect if you considered the risks in the context of the risks of say driving, rock climbing or having an injury on the toilet or putting your socks on, we would be better able to take informed decisions. If even kissing carries risk are we going to give that up? Then as well is the risk that you never do anything through fear of the consequences. You are still going to die however much you reduce the risks of it happening any-time soon. I regret a lot of things I never got to try in my youth because of the influence of religion, social upbringing and just not having the same ability to meet other kinky people as we have now. You have to decide what risks you want to accept at the end of the day and that answer will be different for different people. Monogamy seems a good choice in reducing risks but its not for everyone. I think one thing in the kink world is there are many creative ways to have fun with others without necessarily being non monogamous.
vMaster aka Mike
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| 21 Jan 12, 12:08 PM Platinum UK(W), 9 yrs |
Fo information of those interested but unaware From here http://cancerhelp.cancerresearchuk.org/about-can... The HPV vaccination programme In the UK, girls in year 8 at school (aged 12 to 13) are offered the Cervarix vaccine. Girls have three injections over 6 months given by a nurse. A letter about the vaccine and a consent form is sent to the parents of the girl before she has the vaccine. It is up to her whether she has the vaccine. The government has announced that from September 2012, the vaccination programme will use Gardasil. Gardasil protects against genital warts as well as cervical cancer. It is possible to have the vaccination privately. The cost for private treatment varies from doctor to doctor. We are hearing reports of about £500 being charged for a course of 3 injections. If girls take up the vaccination at school, the programme will prevent at least 7 out of 10 cancers of the cervix and possibly even more in the future. But it takes between 10 and 20 years for a cancer to develop after HPV infection. So any benefits in reducing cervical cancer won't be seen for quite a long time. But the number of cases of pre-cancerous changes in the cervix (CIN) will fall quite rapidly. It is not certain how long the vaccination gives protection for. So far the trials have followed people up for 8 years so we know that it lasts at least this long. It is expected that the vaccines should last for life but more research is needed to find out if this is the case. It may be that women will need a booster dose at some time. Men and boys and the vaccine The HPV vaccine is not licensed for men in the UK at the moment. HPV does increase the risk of other types of cancer including penile and anal cancers in men. However it is not the only cause of these cancers and we don't know how many of these cancers would be prevented by having the vaccine. They are rare cancers and vaccinating all men would be very expensive. It is thought that by vaccinating girls it will reduce the number of men getting HPV because you become infected through sexual contact. So if your male and wish to be vaccinated with gardasil be prepared to pay up to £500 although I think the cost is more likely to be approx £350 P | ||
| 21 Jan 12, 12:18 PM valleyrose17 UK(BS), 2 yrs |
Yes, about 700 people were diagnosed in the past year with HPV related oral cancer, 600 of whom were men. So a low risk but a big increase from previous years apparently
"Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed" Michael Pritchard |
