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Is oral sex safe? (72)

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Fri 20 Jan 12, 8:39 AM
valleyrose17
UK(BS), 2 yrs
On BBC3 last night. Apparently not - not you can catch anything that you would catch gentially. However the programme focussed on HPV - the human papilloma virus and the virus which is responsible for warts and the main cause of cervical cancer.

This is my understanding of the programme - please excuse any terminology which is wrong or incorrect and am happy to be corrected about any of it. Clearly go to the doctor if worried about any symptoms.

8 out of ten of the sexually active population either carry or have carried the virus and most people are able to deal with it without even noticing. However 1 out of 10 of us have immune systems that don't deal with it and CAN go on to develop complications. Abnormal smears are a symptom of things starting to go wrong although may not develop into cancer.

If the virus is transmitted to the mouth (the virus is not carried to different parts of the body by the blood) through oral sex then complications such as oral cancer can develop - sore throats, tonsilitis and swollen glands being symptoms.

It is very rare but being seen more and more. For some reason men are affected more than women. There was a a poor chap on there who had only ever given head to one woman - his current girlfriend - she had the virus and gave it to him - so you don't need to be promiscuous to get this.

"Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed" Michael Pritchard
"Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall in love with a gorgeous redhead" - Lucille Ball

20 Jan 12, 8:44 AM
anna_soumis
UK(CV), 10 mths

What a depressing thought...
20 Jan 12, 8:50 AM
valleyrose17
UK(BS), 2 yrs
Indeed and it does make you wonder why when you go for sexual health check ups they don't check the mouth....and maybe even the bum if you have anal sex.

anna_soumis wrote:
What a depressing thought...

"Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed" Michael Pritchard
"Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall in love with a gorgeous redhead" - Lucille Ball

20 Jan 12, 8:57 AM
jules9
UK(CH), 3 yrs

My clinic does.

You're given a swab and allowed to swab yourself. Very thorough professional service. :)

Wish I'd seen this program, will have to do an iplayer when I get home me thinks.

XxX

valleyrose17 wrote:
Indeed and it does make you wonder why when you go for sexual health check ups they don't check the mouth....and maybe even the bum if you have anal sex.

anna_soumis wrote:
What a depressing thought...

20 Jan 12, 8:57 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Did the programme make a distinction in the level of risk depending on whether the recipient of oral pleasure is male or female?

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Edited 20 Jan 12, 8:58 AM by wonderer

20 Jan 12, 9:13 AM
azgard
UK(SW), 6 mths
It's important not to mix up HPV and HSV (type 1 and 2).

HPV causes cervical cancer etc

HSV-1 and HSV-2 are better known as herpes and they are the ones which are carried by 80% of the population (not HPV).

HSV Type 1 is a virus which causes things like cold sores and can be transmitted by oral contact (i.e. kissing). HSV Type 2 is more significant and can causes blisters / warts and is transmittable by sexual contact if the virus is currently active (symptomatic). The vast majority of people with HSV have no idea they have it or are carrying it as their immune system deals with it.

HSV is also undetectable by swabbing unless there are current symptoms (i.e. blisters) - however a blood test will show it.

(my ex was a doctor!)

Edited 20 Jan 12, 9:17 AM by azgard

20 Jan 12, 9:15 AM
valleyrose17
UK(BS), 2 yrs
This was nothing to do with HSV and everything to do with HPV. the programme said that HPV CAN cause oral cancer. I didn't see herpes or cold sores mentioned.

azgard wrote:
It's important not to mix up HPV and HSV (type 1 and 2).

HPV causes cervical cancer etc HSV-1 and HSV-2 are better known as herpes and they are the ones which are carried by 80% of the population (not HPV).

HSV Type 1 is a virus which causes things like cold sores and can be transmitted by oral contact (i.e. kissing). HSV Type 2 is more significant and can causes blisters / warts and is transmittable by sexual contact if the virus is currently active (symptomatic). The vast majority of people with HSV have no idea they have it or are carrying it as their immune system deals with it.

(my ex was a doctor!)

"Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed" Michael Pritchard
"Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall in love with a gorgeous redhead" - Lucille Ball

20 Jan 12, 9:16 AM
valleyrose17
UK(BS), 2 yrs
Males catch it easier from giving oral sex (didn't distinguish between whether the recipient was male or female) but the guy with cancer in the programme was heterosexual.

wonderer wrote:
Did the programme make a distinction in the level of risk depending on whether the recipient of oral pleasure is male or female?

"Fear is that little darkroom where negatives are developed" Michael Pritchard
"Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall in love with a gorgeous redhead" - Lucille Ball

20 Jan 12, 9:38 AM
Stonez
UK, 5 mths
This program was originally show very late one night about a year I found the story of the poor guy who ended up with cancer after only one time with his girlfriend very disturbing, but then after some consideration I concluded it was possible scaremongering to some degree. As with everything the risks should be considered, Its just common sense to keep yourself and others safe.
20 Jan 12, 10:28 AM
Mr_Smith_UK*
UK(BL), 3 yrs
£
I wonder what type of monkey this one came from.

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20 Jan 12, 10:52 AM
dirtdogsteve
UK(WC), 4 yrs
I can say, having seroconverted to HIV + myself in that way; that yes you can become HIV + through oral sex. Most likely if you have bleeding gums and you are getting your face most royally fucked. I would also expect that HPV virus is also transmittable yes, but again it is very infintely small risk.

To be fair, the number of people who have seroconverted to HIV + from oral sex is probably relatively minuscule, but I did.

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