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Body shapes and gender variations... (82)

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26 Dec 11, 7:59 PM
pod333
UK(DD), 6 yrs
bohnanza wrote:
You mean some people are so fucking shallow that the wealth of a person is the most important thing to them? Next you will be telling me there are some people on IC for whom the same attraction is paramount.

Say its not so!

I was under the belief that everyone told the truth and trolls only existed under imaginary Scandinavian bridges. Oh dear, now you'll tell me Santa Cause is not real...

Bollocks spoken like an real expert.

26 Dec 11, 8:07 PM
ClassAct2005
UK(N), 7 yrs
It's a set of scales - Paul Daniel's wife was asked "what attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels". If you're rich that apparently cancels out ugly fat short. That doens't work with me/. I've rejected a lot of ugly men who are very rich but that's because unusually I have never lived off male earnings and have a proper career. However 4 in 5 women in the UK do earn less than their man and many many subsconsciously or otherwise marry someone a bit better off than they are. I am glad that is dying out because I want sexism to die out.

Anyway as I said I don't need a man's money and I do need to find him attractive but being short is not fatal although it's quite hard to feel very sub to someone you tower over in your high heels

26 Dec 11, 8:16 PM
tanken
UK(NR), 2 yrs

ConsciousnessJunkie wrote:
Actually I've found it quite the opposite way round.

I'm always being called out for being shallow because I have a preference for a certain type of man. But I don't see how that's any different than having a preference for any other trait of someone.

Anyway, certainly I've always found it much more common for men to express their desire for a certain type of woman publicly. It's still not quite as socially acceptable for women to do the same.

True, although we all have a choice of partner even if we don't express our desires publicly :)

Happiness is a warm bum :)

26 Dec 11, 8:28 PM
Adverse_Camber
UK, 3 yrs

ClassAct2005 wrote:
Help me. What is the bit that upsets people? Clearly it is true that masses of posters are obese. Probably most of them would like to be thinner. Most will not be that clever either because the average IQ in the UK is 100 and plenty may not be living in the same place as others. WHy does saying these things upset people?

ClassAct2005 wrote:
On IC there seem to be quite a lot of fat people who take umbrage if weight is mentioned

As it's the festive season, I could not resist a cry for help. So I'm donning my lycra superheroine costume...on my heightweightperfectlyproportioned body (ok, my tits are a tad small, but who's looking?)...

I suggest that you look into the field of discourse analysis...people with a high EQ can do this naturally, but some less emotionally intelligent people may need to learn the skill of analysing words for the meaning they carry when strung together into one poisonous sentence...or numerous thereof, as the case may be.

If you're still struggling, the words "masses, obese, most, clever, On IC there seem to be quite a lot of fat people..." are all clues.

Oh and...in a normal bell curve, across all native English speaking populations -because that is the only population a standard IQ test can measure fairly- 100 is the average score. Meaning 100 is normal, rather than "not that clever".

Helpful smile, ta-ta.

26 Dec 11, 8:35 PM
clouds
UK(CR), 4 yrs
ClassAct2005 wrote:
Well on height our societal norm is that very short men are not very attractive to women. All short men know this. They don't need me to labour the point. They also earn less on average. In fact one DNA laboratory said women ask more about male sperm donor height than IQ which astounded me but I'm fairly short so I don't tend to need a man who is tall.

It's often one of the main criteria women have on dating sites and organisations, amazingly - must be 6 foot or whatever. All very interesting stuff. I certainly find it easier to feel submissive to somoene who is taller and if they are my height but very fat it doesn't seem to balance out and work. In fact if they're short they need to be more careful about weight gain as it really shows (as indeed it does with shorter women)

It doesn't matter whether or not you have evidence for these assertions. Part of being socially integrated is about being careful what we say and how we say it.

Sometimes you behave in a very naive way, thinking it is just being honest to say what you think. Honesty is a nice trait, but there is a line between being honest and being downright offensive.

People generally DON'T always go about saying what they think for rather obvious reasons, EVEN WHEN IT MIGHT BE TRUE. Most people learn this during adolescence. You seemed to have missed this essential learning stage in your growing up.

clouds

Edited 26 Dec 11, 8:43 PM by clouds

26 Dec 11, 8:38 PM
clouds
UK(CR), 4 yrs
ClassAct2005 wrote:
Well on height our societal norm is that very short men are not very attractive to women. All short men know this. They don't need me to labour the point. They also earn less on average. In fact one DNA laboratory said women ask more about male sperm donor height than IQ which astounded me but I'm fairly short so I don't tend to need a man who is tall.

It's often one of the main criteria women have on dating sites and organisations, amazingly - must be 6 foot or whatever. All very interesting stuff. I certainly find it easier to feel submissive to somoene who is taller and if they are my height but very fat it doesn't seem to balance out and work. In fact if they're short they need to be more careful about weight gain as it really shows (as indeed it does with shorter women)

So how do short men fare on the scale of kindness and integrity? Have you researched that? Or is that not of any interest to you?

annie

Edited 26 Dec 11, 8:43 PM by clouds

26 Dec 11, 8:45 PM
ConsciousnessJunkie
UK(N), 5 yrs

clouds wrote:
So how do short men fare on the scale of kindness and integrity? Have you researched that? Or is that not of any interest to you?

What does kindness and integrity have to do with how good looking you are?

26 Dec 11, 8:52 PM
clouds
UK(CR), 4 yrs
ConsciousnessJunkie wrote:
clouds wrote:
So how do short men fare on the scale of kindness and integrity? Have you researched that? Or is that not of any interest to you?

What does kindness and integrity have to do with how good looking you are?

Nothing. Why should it have? But judging short men on their kindness and integrity makes far more sense than on whether there is supposedly statistical 'evidence' that other women don't find them attractive.

annie

Edited 26 Dec 11, 9:01 PM by clouds

26 Dec 11, 9:13 PM
ConsciousnessJunkie
UK(N), 5 yrs

clouds wrote:
Nothing. Why should it have? But judging short men on their kindness and integrity makes far more sense than on whether there is supposedly statistical 'evidence' that other women don't find them attractive.

My point was that your point was irrelevant...

We're discussing peoples looks, not how wonderful their personality is. Believe it or not, it's more important to some people that their partner looks good than if they have honourable personality traits - that's no more shallow than any other way of judging a person.

26 Dec 11, 10:50 PM
clouds
UK(CR), 4 yrs
ConsciousnessJunkie wrote:
clouds wrote:
Nothing. Why should it have? But judging short men on their kindness and integrity makes far more sense than on whether there is supposedly statistical 'evidence' that other women don't find them attractive.

My point was that your point was irrelevant...

We're discussing peoples looks, not how wonderful their personality is. Believe it or not, it's more important to some people that their partner looks good than if they have honourable personality traits - that's no more shallow than any other way of judging a person.

So why didn't you say the same to classact then, when she started referring to IQ and other non-physical traits?

I don't think it is irrelevant to bring the importance of other qualities into the discussion. And since when was their some kind of limit on what direction the discussion should take? This is an open forum isn't it?

Classact consistently uses alleged statistics to support her stance about physical and non-physical features (IQ, weight,income etc).

My point is that you can use statistics to make any point and no doubt one could just as easily use supposed statistics to argue that short men ARE attractive to women for quite different reasons.

Incidentally, I haven't called you or anyone else shallow. That is a label you have referred to, not me.

annie

Edited 26 Dec 11, 10:59 PM by clouds

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