Cameron's game (19)

When you phrase it as a humiliation scene, it suddenly seems OK

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So many companies in the UK will be affected anyway by an EU treaty as 40% of UK's GDP is within Europe, so Cameron's position seems to be a bit strange, to negotiate a better deal for Britain would be better than the veto he played, instead we will get told now this is the law and we will abide if any treaty gets ratified. Most companies are pro European (even America see's Europe as a good thing)I would think that these companies might be a bit annoyed that there is'nt a British voice raising their concerns now.

Even that dreadful PM Thatcher always knew that being at the heart of talks is where Britain should be. Cameron was quick to go into Libya and voice his opinions across international issues but this issue he does'nt come across his usual quite eloquent way,his party has'nt put their position across very well either.They don't have their ususal confidence which worries me.

And yes, IIRC from previous threads you seem quite happy to support the party you hate most, in demonising the party you now hate for er, supporting the party you hate the most. I still don't understand this logic :/

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Well you can hardly call sulking and not turning up at questions and flouncing about on the Marr show, nailing his political colours to the mast.

Every night before I sleep, I thank the stars up above, that the liberals have destroyed their party for a handful of third rate government posts. It pleases me that everyone else can now see what they are truly like.

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I hate the Tories for being Tories, tis true. However I hate the Lib Dems more for being Tories because they pretended they weren't Tories in order to get votes.

I don't see what's so illogical about that. The Lib Dems are everything shitty about the Tories, plus they played a long con masquerading as, well, Liberals and Social Democrats. I loathe the self interest and inhumanity at the core of Tory politics (yay for Cameron reducing benefits for disabled children by the way, that'll teach those mooching little gimps who's boss) but it's one thing to be a Tory arsehole, it's quite another to pretend not to be in order to con the public out of their democratic right to representation.

I mean you can say what you like about the Tories, fuck knows I do, but they have a democratic right to exist. They are exactly what it says on the tin, presuming the Tory tin says, "Assorted Arseholes, property of the City of London". The Lib Dems on the other hand are a travesty.

It ought to be criminal to so abjectly betray the voters in the way that they have. It's like hiring window cleaners who instead of cleaning the windows just shoot your kids.

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No problem, he's a politician, violating principles to keep their snouts in the gravy comes as easy as breaking wind to them.

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And they keep doing it!Their latest idea is they do not want the rules that govern their expenses but a trade association to sort out the rules to expenses and like if they use it,if they get it,to violate the rules of parliment.

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Edited 17 Dec 11, 6:00 AM by Empress_Martine

His veto may well backfire on his expressed intention to champion the Union. Scotland is generally pro the EU and the SNP won a landslide mandate with pro EU aspects to their manifesto.

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