| Pauls_babybeth |
Okay , this is from how i understand it, the EU do not want to have us on equal footing to other countries where rules have been bent in their favour, i hope i got that right, doesn't that make us the bottom to all the other countries? Quite honestly, good one Cameroon for standing alone on that.
i remember when Major was going through similar tough decisions, how he snuck in a diplomat to hide and help him, sounds like we need to do the same thing again. Back handed, but aren't they being?
| 10 Dec 11, 2:39 PM MisstressvsSolicedog UK(NN), 17 mths |
way i see it,, PM did the right thing for the wrong reason's,, pure chance on his behalf, all this we are on the outside is crap,, just pure bollock's had he signed this treaty then the pepers would have been shouting about us bailing out the EU to a greater extent, the EU is supposed to be a Common Market,, not a Fedral United Europe, people forget this,, Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish | |
| 10 Dec 11, 2:43 PM paulchance49 UK(DE), 3 yrs |
Before you go over the top on David Cameron, he had no choice, to join would have triggered a British referendum and no Politician could allow us that. | |
| 10 Dec 11, 3:40 PM Tralaticius UK(LS), 2 yrs |
Agreed ^^^^
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| 10 Dec 11, 5:00 PM MisstressvsSolicedog UK(NN), 17 mths |
Oh i was'nt concidering going over the top with 'Fat Dave' i,m just saying that he did the right thing,,, for the wrong reason's,, Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish | |
| 10 Dec 11, 5:34 PM Pauls_babybeth UK(KT), 5 yrs |
i think he did it for the right reasons actually, and Europe better start pleading us harder! I lovesss bears | |
| 11 Dec 11, 12:26 AM MisstressvsSolicedog UK(NN), 17 mths |
the reason i say he did it for the wrong reason,, because this gov as well as past gov's have their collective tounges stuck up the bankers backside's sofar that they are ill able to see the vast and general deciet of what's really going on, we need industry producing thing's you cannot live on pixel's alone, this country went from an industral nation to a service nation under successive govenment's since the late seventie's companys producing good's ( in profit but not huge ) who's share's were bought up then the companyclosed down because the fixtures fittings and land were a quick profit,, it did'nt matter that 50 or 5000 people suddenly were on the dole and your tax money paying for their rent intrest on the morgage etc etc, because someone made money and it wasn't you or me ! it was a speculater, most of our problem's if not all are down to speculater's ( banking type's ) 2% of our 100 top company's do not pay corporation tax because their head office is a 'post box' in Switzerland,, yes 100s of millions of pounds in tax money is lost because of renting a 'post box' in Switzerland, some footballers being paid million's of pound's per year pay 2% tax because of the loophole's available to monied people, their are few rich tax payer's who pay what they actually fairly should,, Greece got into the shit because the well off manipulated the system... the tax payers there are paying for their deciet, What do you think is slowly happening in this country,, Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish | |
| 11 Dec 11, 9:50 AM Anita_Esrader UK(BD), 7 yrs |
I dont really understand what is going on.. But I say what I see.. I see big fat cat company executives and bankers getting huge bonuses and pay rises (sometimes hidden in shares), whereas the common worker is forced to take a less than inflation pay rise, if they are fortunate enough to be permitted to work. This effectively makes them poorer. I see energy companies ripping us off with fuel bills, stinging the most hard up most. I see former nationalised companies making massive profits for the benefit of greedy shareholders. I see me paying six times as much as a public sector worker for a pension of the same value. I see petrol prices going through the roof, so much so that I have had to cut down my partying, not because I cant afford the party, but I cannot afford the fuel to get there (even for relatively local events). Petrol is now a serious consideration when partying. But, what I see biggest of all is that the Germans want to rule the world (Europe at least). They could not do it by fighting us, so now they use political and economic means to achieve the same. They run the EU banks and now they (with the French) have railroaded through a new 'deal' to 'save the Euro'. When what they did is what banks do, pander to the rich and make their profits off the poor... My view-- If the Euro fails, let it be. I the Germans want to rule the EU, let them, just make sure it is without us. Why save a bank from going bust?? Why buy a bank with taxpayers money and then sell it to Branson at a loss... Branson has literally stolen money from every taxpayers pocket. Cameron did not go far enough. He should have said "Give us more clout or we will pull out of Europe completely". The once "GREAT" britain is now ruled by unelected Eurocrats in Brussels (and I bet the HQ is moved to Berlin soon)... Rant over, cos I am only 8 and not really old enough to understand all this.. All I see is prices going up and less pocket money.. XXX Brand new School, fun for all, www.stAudries-at-ouse.co.uk for details.. | |
| 11 Dec 11, 4:24 PM steff UK(NE), 9 yrs |
the British aint happy unless we are having a spat with the frogs or krauts. this way we have pissed all of europe off.
happy days |