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Are Fetlife breaking the law?? (28)

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8 Dec 11, 8:44 PM
Syroxx
UK(NN), 2 yrs

FrostySub wrote:
the account has been used from locations which are not consistent with the profile;

If this IS a reason Fetlife use, that will be the case, as she was listed as being in Milton Keynes IIRC.

Possible i suppose. there's a reason for that though, but not for me to divulge.

Still... i don;t suppose it is unheard of for relationships that span oceans to occur and for their Doms to have access to their accounts. wouldn't that result in accounts being deleted left right ad centre?

Sub lives in US, Dom likes in UK, loggs ito her account (with her permission of course) and boom. flagged and deleted.

Of course i do not have a copy of any corrospondance between her and FL so i am only guessing at best. only an account of what it contained as relayed via video call on Skype.

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8 Dec 11, 8:53 PM
Lj_switch
UK, 3 yrs


IC is predominantly UK-based, and I imagine sticks to the laws applying in the UK. Fetlife is world-wide, so again I imagine they stick to the the lowest common denominator in terms of rules (which is probably the USA in that they seem to have the least tolerant legislation for sexual matters - and no, I can't prove that, just an opinion)

FWIW I'm a Moderator on another world-wide site, and we have a very strict policy on under-age participation. We look at posts and those that appear to be from under-age people (21) are challenged and sometimes deleted and the user banned. This is at the request of the site owner, who does not wish to be legally challenged in any jursidiction for promoting sexual matters to under-age people. It is unfortunate that there is such a disparity in ages across the world, where sexuality may be discussed openly.

Whether such infractions are genuinely illegal is debatable, but the actions of FetLife in the case of the OP are simply a matter for the owner of the FetLife site. As has been said, if you don't like the rules of the site, don't participate.

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8 Dec 11, 9:04 PM
Syroxx
UK(NN), 2 yrs

well I got an answer from Mr Baku on the topic.

Fair question and I appreciate your security.

First of I should start off by saying there is no such thing as 100%. But, what I can tell you is that the caretaker team is extremely trustworthy and all information that is sent to us is stored in a system that we can only access over SSL. We've never had a problem with security and hopefully never will. And if someone on our system did go rogue not only would we fire them but we would go after them legally.

Hope this answers your question.

Good to know that there is at least SOME security involved in it all. I wonder if all of this is generally pointed out in emails requesting ID of any sort though.

You're amazing, yes it's true. But without me, you're only you.

9 Dec 11, 2:07 AM
IsleofDogsDom
UK(E), 20 mths
Syroxx wrote:
Are Fetlife breaking the law??

I have a girl over in the USA who is 18 years old. She is one of the fortunate ones who looks younger than her age and because of this, the faceless entity known as the Fetlife Caretakers chose to order her to submit her personal details. Information which identifies her.

FetLife's Caretakers are an extremely caring and giving group of kinksters that dedicate hundreds of hours each week to make sure your FetLife experience is as good as we can possibly make it.

So where is the accountability? A group of vounteers? who can just ask for private info on a whim?

Surely Fetlife and their policies leave things wide open for their Caretakers to commit identity theft should they so desire to. There is no secure means of proving age or anything else for that matter. simply your bog standard Email

Am I the only one here who would plain out refuse to open myself up like that? to risk my information falling into the wrong hands?

Surely this is at best a very grey area legally.

My Girl refused to open herself up to that kind of potential abuse (and personally I agree with her) so Fetlife deleted her account.

Surely there needs to be some security and accountability when dealing with other peoples personal information?

I'd be interested to know the opinions on those more well versed in legal matters than myself, but there is a big parade of red flags walking in front of me over this whole issue.

If you want to get legal advice, consult a lawyer directly, but be prepared to get your wallet out.

If you want to boast about being a 37 year old man who has seduced an 18 year old online come out and say it directly.

If you want to deal with the issue, engage with the website, rather than posting on an alternate site with an "oh so terrible" tale.

Their site, their rules....if its meant to be I am sure you will find a way to work around this huge inconvenience to your blossoming cross-atlantic tale.

Be sure and keep us posted...a community holds its breath.

10 Dec 11, 5:05 AM
x_Thunder_x
UK(E), 9 yrs


Shineecouple wrote:

A 37 year old guy with an 18 year old girl who fortunately looks younger?

.

No doubt the OP has written proof that the person he is having this cyber relationship with is indeed 18 and not the age she "fortunately" looks and is aware of Fetlife's obvious concern about the penalties for "Grooming"

^Thunder^
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10 Dec 11, 9:10 PM
Notasquick
UK(WC), 10 yrs

FrostySub wrote:
the account has been used from locations which are not consistent with the profile;

If this IS a reason Fetlife use,

https://fetlife.com/fetlife/tou

  • Sections 3. REGISTRATION AND PRIVACY
  • Section 4. USER CONDUCT
  • Section 9. PROFILES
  • Section 32. VIOLATIONS OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS

For example, in Section 3:

"If you provide any information that is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, or BitLove Inc. has a reasonable grounds to suspect that such information is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, BitLove Inc. has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Products and Services."

FrostySub wrote:
that will be the case, as she was listed as being in Milton Keynes IIRC.

I was thinking more of claiming they lived in California, whilst continually using the account from Africa.

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11 Dec 11, 10:42 AM
faeryboi
6 yrs
Syroxx wrote:

I have a girl over in the USA who is 18 years old. She is one of the fortunate ones who looks younger than her age

Hmmmm I cant help but have a squicky feeling that you wish to date someone who looks younger than 18!

Dont look back in anger........ Go forward in Fury!

11 Dec 11, 1:06 PM
Syroxx
UK(NN), 2 yrs

x_Thunder_x wrote:
Shineecouple wrote:

A 37 year old guy with an 18 year old girl who fortunately looks younger?

.

No doubt the OP has written proof that the person he is having this cyber relationship with is indeed 18 and not the age she "fortunately" looks and is aware of Fetlife's obvious concern about the penalties for "Grooming"

^^ This

I have the proof. that isnt the issue i am trying to address though. it is more to do with how secure the information being asked for is.

You're amazing, yes it's true. But without me, you're only you.

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