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Manacles (6)

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Sun 4 Dec 11, 1:52 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Does anyone know anything really reliable about manacles used to restrain prisoners in Medieval gaols?

About how they were really fitted?

Because I'm faced with the idea of a blacksmith hammering a piece of very hot metal round a human limb and, given that the human is going to struggle like mad, I just don't believe it.

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4 Dec 11, 1:57 PM
Muzzlehatch
UK(TN), 7 yrs

Ishmael wrote:
Manacles

Does anyone know anything really reliable about manacles used to restrain prisoners in Medieval gaols?

About how they were really fitted?

Because I'm faced with the idea of a blacksmith hammering a piece of very hot metal round a human limb and, given that the human is going to struggle like mad, I just don't believe it.

Basic padlocks have been around for centuries.

Apart from that. Hinged manacles can be rivited cold, no heat required!

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4 Dec 11, 2:03 PM
Attitude_Adjuster
UK(N), 6 yrs

Ishmael wrote:
Manacles

Does anyone know anything really reliable about manacles used to restrain prisoners in Medieval gaols?

About how they were really fitted?

Because I'm faced with the idea of a blacksmith hammering a piece of very hot metal round a human limb and, given that the human is going to struggle like mad, I just don't believe it.

That doesn't sound likely to me. From museum pieces I've seen, they appeared generally to be a U shape in metal, with either a pin through, or a bar that screws down.

or hinges. they had hinges. hinges are really old.

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4 Dec 11, 4:20 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

This is a very interesting book.

Yes, a mixture of cold hammering, hot rivets, and padlocks for both medieval and Roman periods.

:T:

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www.bridgewood.org.uk

Edited 4 Dec 11, 4:21 PM by Tanos

4 Dec 11, 4:21 PM
BooteDom
UK(NR), 6 yrs

I have a set that comprises of a straight steel bar and two U shaped steel fittings that just slide down with the wrists inside.Very effective.
4 Dec 11, 4:56 PM
Cropperr
UK(G), 7 yrs

I was interested in this thread, so had a wee look online.

Wikipedia, and a few other places talk about cup lock shackles, that have no lock, and also puzzle lock shackles.

Although from the little I have seen online of these puzzle lock shackles, it appears that only one shackle is 'puzzle' locked, the other shackle seems to be padlocked... As someone said up there^, padlocks have been around for since at least Roman times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legcuffs

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10 Dec 11, 6:54 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

Some markkingdom videos from YouTube showing hammering shut and then removing Thai restraints with soft rivets:

http://youtu.be/qYQASGxqHZE

http://youtu.be/rV0Z4gGvaZs

These last ones are more medieval looking and you don't see them removed:

http://youtu.be/wO4-6Mrrnmk

:T:

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www.bridgewood.org.uk

Edited 11 Dec 11, 12:11 AM by Tanos

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