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| Wed 30 Nov 11, 9:55 PM Jarrxe UK(N), 20 mths  |
A recent news item got me thinking that as a sub where would you draw the line in handing control over to a Dom? It's a very moronic thing that guy did — no debate, but he claims that her gf signed a consent form of artist's discretion. If this was in a D/s relationship and a Dom wanted to do it as a test of submission, would anyone go along with it? Edited Wed 30 Nov 11, 9:56 PM by Jarrxe | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:02 PM Ianneil UK(N), 5 yrs  |
I saw it and thought it was a donuts shaped candle surrounded by butterflies. Obviously an example of the evils of cheap wine. | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:09 PM misunderstoodslave UK(OL), 2 yrs |
In principle, he could have me tattooed in any way he wished. In practice, I think that anyone who could do that particular thing as pictured to someone would be such a cunt that you couldn't possibly consider yourself bound to them thereafter. IMO. There's a difference between a tattoo, which I wouldn't like but would have to submit to; a tattoo I actively disliked or which would show, which would be worse but still required, and that horrid thing, which I don't even have to think about whether I'd say no because I truly believe he wouldn't ask it. It's the old thing of saying I don't have limits, in the reasonably certain knowledge that the person in charge may do terrible things but will have limits of their own, which chime with your values to a greater or lesser degree, hence you are in a relationship in the first place. | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:20 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs |
yowzers! revenge of the cheatee eh! (disclaimer: i don't hold an opinion on the news article regarding who did what...gotta say though that the guys pretty good at making things look like the things they look like but if i was that poor girl i would definately want him to pay for the removal and any damages)
Can Master get me to have a tattoo? Yeah he can We've discussed piercings and this isn't ruled out. If he wanted me to get something pierced that i didn't want to be pierced, I would present my case to him and then with that in mind, a decision would be made I guess. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:24 PM Jarrxe UK(N), 20 mths |
When a sub says that her Dom owns her, then wouldn't this tat technically make it okay for the sub to have, as a matter of pride of her Dom's artistic discretion and what not? Clearly this demented Dom enjoyed it, so for his sake the sub should be okay with it. Had it been a temporary tattoo of the same thing which would mean that she would have the control to remove any time, she wouldn't have been mad and in there lies the question that, does there at all exist a real or absolute D/s, or is someone a Dom only as much as the sub allows? If the Dom has full control over things that don't matter, e.g. a temporary tattoo, then why would he be content over the disillusion that he has true control? I know I'm making an anal non-pragmatic argument, but I want to know where am I going wrong in this line of thinking? | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:26 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs |
it doesn't say anything about them being in a Ds relationship does it? i didn't see anywhere that said this but do correct me if i'm wrong? It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:29 PM Jarrxe UK(N), 20 mths |
So basically he can do anything he likes as long as it's what you allow. That sounds more like non-D/s relationships I've been in. | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:30 PM Souci_X UK(BA), 5 yrs |
Even if they were, gotta be honest not all D/s relationships work that way anyways. Everyone has their own limits and parameters. Ownership is a subjective term. On a personal level Mr Man has the option but he is sensible, if he wasn't, if at his discression he wanted me to have something innapropriate tattooed on me I wouldn't do it. Course he wouldn't which is kind of the point I guess. | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 10:44 PM Hatari  UK(BN), 6 yrs |
I think there are two things here Wine and shots Signing an open authority Regardless of whether the couple were bdsm, large amounts of alcohol and play or whatever you call it is not a good think. Be interesting to see if she wins, I have my doubts though. | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 11:18 PM Dragonfyre UK(M), 5 yrs |
When @totallycoverme told me about this story I remembered that I had read something about it a few days ago. Upon checking my original source, I came across a link to this page, which says that the "turd tattoo" story is a fake.
Of course, this doesn't affect your question about "where do you draw the line" at all, as long as the line isn't drawn on the sub's back | ||
| 30 Nov 11, 11:23 PM totallycoverme UK(M), 4 yrs |
yeah, you're right, we're probably doing it wrong lol
nah seriously though...he has the final say, tis just that i am allowed to offer my opinion on a matter before he makes a final decision...like for anyone to make an informed decision, it helps of they have as much info as possible. he might do what he wants, he might do what i want but at least along the way, he's taken my welfare into account and I guess with body modification, this is important It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice Edited 30 Nov 11, 11:24 PM by totallycoverme |
Neither of us have tattoos and I don't think with my skin sensitivity it would be a good idea so in this respect, we know that it's Master's duty of care to me not to get this done.