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Pull yourself together (6)

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Posted by Adverse_Camber on Thu 24 Nov 11, 11:16 PM to Adverse_Camber's blog.

I have a friend who...

(No, really, I do)

A friend who is falling apart.

(Not a pretend friend as a chimera for me, although yes, you are right, I do fall apart too...frequently, serially, sequentially...but recoverably...and this really isn't about me.)

So, my friend, the one who is falling apart. A lot of people feel they have a need, a right, an unbearable heaviness of causality to consult on this friend. "I'm seriously worried about Ray". "Ah yes, me too...WTF is WRONG with him???!!!"

"HE SHOULD JUST PULL HIMSELF TOGETHER" (Feel free to join in, it is the chorus, after all.)

"I've been there, done that, faced the depths...and I didn't fall apart. Has he no shame? Can he not separate private from public???" "Tch/tut" (Feel free to nod your heads in sage agreement right about now.)

And if it is so easy to pull yourself together...so very fucking easy...well, good for you.

But the fragmentation of a human being still makes me cry.

(No...

this

still

isn't

about

...me.)

Edited Thu 24 Nov 11, 11:27 PM by Adverse_Camber

Replies

24 Nov 11, 11:21 PM
Iphis_me
UK(E), 4 yrs

Can you encourage/support the friend to get help? If that many people are concerned it seems there's good reason for help to be needed.....

"The unexamined life is not worth living" - Socrates

24 Nov 11, 11:23 PM
Adverse_Camber
UK, 3 yrs

Iphis_me wrote:
Can you encourage/support the friend to get help? If that many people are concerned it seems there's good reason for help to be needed.....

Heh...he commented that I should be charging by the hour, but I replied that sadly, all my phone booth cards had been removed, so I had to start doing freebies.

As you and I both know, darling girl, there is no help to be had until one is ready. Take care x

24 Nov 11, 11:40 PM
Grownup_Frankie
UK, 4 yrs
And sometimes too we have to live with not being able to help. Which can be the hardest thing to accept. That we can only witness. Sometimes all we can do is have faith in the person we are worried about, believe, or pray, that they will make it through the long dark night. In a way we all have long dark nights of the soul to face, and we all must, perhaps, in the end, face them and get through them on our own.
25 Nov 11, 11:35 AM
MisstressvsSolicedog
UK(NN), 17 mths
like all thing's where people fall apart,, it's the cycle of thought that is doing not the life around them,,

i was telling a friend only yesterday about many many periods of time in my life where trumatic adventure had been thrust apon me simply because i was in the vacinity led to living as much life in one week as many do in a year,,

the only depressingly one thing you can be certain of in life is that,

you are here now that's it,,

and that only you can pull yourself together no-one else can,

you can take pills to supress but they are not a cure matters of the mind are not a simple bug to be rid of by an anti biotic,

so regardless of the crap around it come's down to breaking the cycle of thought that is self destructive,,

recognising that thought process is very very important,,

then breaking the thought process by forcing a new thought into that cycle the thought has to be as bright with smell feel etc etc as real as possible forced into the depressive cycle of thought,

you have to keep pushing in the new thought when you recognise the sign's that your thinking is within the depressive cycle,

this will only work if your friend can see and activly use it,,

if they are a particular 'needy' type that will only call upon your good nature further and further without realisticly dealing with their problem,,

then they will drag you down with them,

Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish

26 Nov 11, 10:23 AM
NimueBanditQueen
UK(MK), 2 yrs

misstressvsdog wrote:
like all thing's where people fall apart,, it's the cycle of thought that is doing not the life around them,,

i was telling a friend only yesterday about many many periods of time in my life where trumatic adventure had been thrust apon me simply because i was in the vacinity led to living as much life in one week as many do in a year,,

the only depressingly one thing you can be certain of in life is that,

you are here now that's it,,

and that only you can pull yourself together no-one else can,

you can take pills to supress but they are not a cure matters of the mind are not a simple bug to be rid of by an anti biotic,

so regardless of the crap around it come's down to breaking the cycle of thought that is self destructive,,

recognising that thought process is very very important,,

then breaking the thought process by forcing a new thought into that cycle the thought has to be as bright with smell feel etc etc as real as possible forced into the depressive cycle of thought,

you have to keep pushing in the new thought when you recognise the sign's that your thinking is within the depressive cycle,

this will only work if your friend can see and activly use it,,

if they are a particular 'needy' type that will only call upon your good nature further and further without realisticly dealing with their problem,,

then they will drag you down with them,

Much wisdom above and gently put, especially the last.

But I have to say that is not always the case, it does not always work that way. Sometimes the depression precedes and precludes thought. I know this at the moment only because my own systems have been temporarily overwhelmed. I am taking such steps as I can to combat it, they take time to work.

An example: personal, I am sorry for that but it all I have to illustrate the point: at the moment I wake up, and immediately I am struck so low I am crying without let-up. Why I do not know, no thought has created it. Nightmares yes but not worse than at other times. In fact for me it works in reverse to what you describe and always has: I wake up, bum out and then have to cast around for what the heck might be the cause. Because of this I can never be sure that any answers I come up with correct or even relevant. Hard to heal when you do not know what the causes are.

At one time in my life I used to wake up because and as I was literally running off the end of the bed every morning, trying to flee... something...

When I have had the chance to awaken fully (which takes time) the 'gatekeeper' is re-established, I remind myself of all I have that is good, all I can do to improve my life and set off to do it.

it is not always within our power to control. And for some of us, while it is, when it is, we do.

>>> edited to add a part I missed.

...
we apologise for the incoherence,
we are busy having a primal scream...

Edited 26 Nov 11, 10:34 AM by NimueBanditQueen

26 Nov 11, 10:41 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Grownup_Frankie wrote:
And sometimes too we have to live with not being able to help. Which can be the hardest thing to accept. That we can only witness. Sometimes all we can do is have faith in the person we are worried about, believe, or pray, that they will make it through the long dark night. In a way we all have long dark nights of the soul to face, and we all must, perhaps, in the end, face them and get through them on our own.

Quoted for truth and wisdom.

"Wisdom begins in wonder” (Socrates)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" (Albert Einstein)
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

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