BDSM & Swinging (94)

spankee_1 wrote: Well that is your opinion, I respect your opinion, but it is not my opinion, they are completely different things, I personally go along to BDSM clubs so I can mix with like minded people, people who will not judge who I am because of what I am into, they understand, swingers are predominately vanilla so they are not like minded and the majority do not understand, so no I stand by my opinion that the two are poles apart and can not successfully mix

I think that you are both right in a way. BDSM and Swinging are two totally different things, although there is a small link in that they are usually done by open minded, sexually liberated adults (I say usually!).

My reply was going to be very similar to Bohnanza's, but then I read his and there is no point saying the same thing.

Many people have more than one hobby or interest, people into BDSM are no different. I imagine it like one of those venn diagrams that we used to do at school. One circle represents people into BDSM, one circle represents Swingers (or football fans or real ale buffs or just about anything else) and there is a crossover in the middle.

I do however think that Swinging and BDSM are slightly related as they are Adult practices that involve physical and erotic contact often where many others can watch (Yes, I know that BDSM can be done in private, but I'm thinking of the club environment).

There have been very successful events that are a mix of BDSM and Swinging, The Revels at Ceasars was an example of what was a very good night where the two were mixed.

Gary.

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If a few Ds couples got it together, it could open up all aspects of intimate play.

My mind is doing overtime

bucksoxcouple wrote: Before the fight really gets going I don't see why, say, 2 or 3 Ds couples can't all get together and mix it all up. But then, how are we defining 'swinging'? Sex with multiple partners? Indiscriminate sex with relative strangers? Surely Ds + sex with multiple partners is also swinging? We've enjoyed a Ds 3some from time to time. Were any of us swinging?

I am aware of a large crossover between the two scenes, many kinky swingers teaming up with your more over BDSM/Fetish kinksters to all have a good time.

This happens in clubs or privately. It may not be successful all the time in evry scenario, but it most certainly does happen, therefore, you CAN mix the two.

Thos of us who may not like the thought, fine. But the others who do, brill!

enjoy.

lp

................bitie bitie...................

I think this is a good point too. In both physical and emotional terms, the involvement of other people ( whether it be 1 sub / 1 Dom / 2 subs / 1 Domme / 3 subs, 1 Dom and a Dachshund named Colin ) just brings in more and more possibilities ?

Why would we want to close ourself off from that as an opportunity ?

" Pow ! Right in the kisser ! "

Edited 19 Nov 11, 12:18 PM by spankee_1

Swinging concentrates on purely the sex element (the sexual pleasure part) and allows people the freedom to explore/experience themselves without the need for someone else to (control) make the decisions for them or a partner (unless a Swinging couple is/are there as a D/s couple and one or the other of them is controlling/being controlled in that environment).

@The_Coven / @The_Problem_Page, you might give the advice that someone needs. / I want the "Moon on a stick and the Stars suspended from bunting". / So many haystacks, so few needles! / Conserve conversation and converse about conservation!

Has anyone considered that people who snigger maybe doing it out of nerves as they do not really have a understanding of what maybe taking place and not because they think its weird or odd thing to be doing and instead of judging them perhapes take the time to explain what is going on and the reasons why you maybe a bit surprised by how much they are really intrested and want to understand ok there will be some who you will not get to understand but at least you tried!.....

We had some great nights at MISSuse with our guests and everyone accepted everyone for who they are not about your a swinger or your into bdsm we shall be back soon.....

Edited 19 Nov 11, 1:45 PM by MsSarah

I was at the Skin Two Femdom Evening 3 weeks ago and the event was held at a swingers club with both BDSM kinksters and swinging folks present.

It must have been quite a sight and experience for those swingers that know not much about BDSM to see Ms Sidonia & Ms Lady Nina Birch do their show!!

I just wonder how many of those swingers got curious about BDSM on the evening?

Somewhat surprisingly, a lot of swingers don't cry 'freak' if you want to tie them up and muck around with sensation play a bit. Some can be very broad-minded and experimental. Even more surprisingly (or perhaps not if you're a realist) a lot of kinksters don't stomp off in disgust the moment you introduce a sexual element to play. The only reason that BDSM can't embrace swinging is that it would put too many noses out of joint.

Given that swinging covers everything from exhibitionism and voyeurism upwards, much of the play that you'd see in a fet club could probably be defined as kinky swinging. Therefore, if anyone wants to chuck rocks at people who swing, then they should not play at fet nights or ever do anything kinky with anyone other than their life partner. They should also be prepared to treat anyone who does play at fet nights or with multiple partners with the same disdain as swingers. Anything else would amount to hypocrisy, or at least double-standards.

So yes, perhaps they are two separate things with two individual distinct objectives. But unlike gardening and sky-diving, you can enjoy a combination of the two simultaneously, and perhaps find the experience more rewarding than each individual activity.

As for atmosphere: I'll concede that I generally like the fet crowd better, but that's largely because I've spent more time with them and got to know them better. There seems to be an assumption that the wanky, lecherous types are part of the swinging scene that's unwelcome in the fet one. For what it's worth, they aren't particularly welcome in swinging either.