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Patriarchy has failed! (96)

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12 Nov 11, 6:28 PM
sirguym
UK(HR), 6 yrs
valiant1 wrote:
This may be a risky topic for me to post on, and I know 'social darwinism' is something of a taboo field, but one might speculate that if matriarchal societies were successful, their memes would have propagated and taken over.

Alternatively - just because it appears so at first glance, are you totally sure society is run by men for men, or is that just an illusion the girls like to leave us?

Exactly my hypothesis. Men rule because, mostly, women don't want the hassle and responsibility. My experience is that in many apparently extremely patriarchal societies in the Middle and Far East, the Matriarch of a wealthy family actually wields ultimate financial, etc. power over all the men and women in the extended family, whilst apparently deferring to the men.

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Edited 12 Nov 11, 6:41 PM by sirguym

12 Nov 11, 6:32 PM
valiant1
UK(ST), 7 yrs

One last thought for the OP and then I'll shut up:

I wonder about the sense of patriarchy failing in a world which has taken us in a few brief centuries from feudalism to democracy, from walking everywhere to the motor car, holidays in the tropics by jetliner, even to the moon. From a subsistence diet based on bread or potatoes to exotic fruit and ready meals on the shelves of every supermarket, from illiteracy to the internet. We live in a world where, with a few exceptions, more and more countries are moving to tolerate diversity more than ever before.

Yes, there are inequalities and injustices in the world. There always have been, but perhaps the Arab spring gives us hope that there might, in the future be a chance that people might have a real voice in their own future. So instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater by focussing on polarising things onto patri- or matri-archy, let's focus on building a sense of co-operation, collaboration and tolerance amongst everyone, so that we can face the complex social and environmental challenges that will face us in an overcrowded future.

WARNING: The above post may contain inaccuracies, irony or downright sarcasm.Not suitable for anyone allergic to nuts.

12 Nov 11, 7:33 PM
Natural_Born_Sub
UK(PR), 3 yrs
I wonder how a Matriarchal political party would get on?

I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. Mark Twain

12 Nov 11, 8:05 PM
Ishmael
UK(SE), 12 yrs
Natural_Born_Sub wrote:
Patriarchy has failed!

Look at the state of the world constant conflict, warfare, genocide, slavery, injustice and poverty.

Would Matriarchy do a better job? Would women do a better job ruling our world?

Your thoughts please.

I seem to remember that it was ruling in the Forest Fields/Hyson Green area of Nottingham in the mid 80s. It wasn't very much fun.

Actually, that was probably the last time (outside the Modern Parents) that I ran into that 'Men Have Failed' thing, and I was very glad to have left it behind with the 1980s; nasty decade.

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12 Nov 11, 8:09 PM
condemned
UK(M), 11 yrs
valiant1 wrote:
condemned wrote:
I can only speak from my experiance in the workplace but every woman boss i have worked for has been a royal pain in the butt!

Maybe you should have tried a little more lubrication - or just learned to relax and accept it.

Ha ha..well my comment DID go on to say the women i worked with disliked working for women bosses just as much.

12 Nov 11, 8:39 PM
A_Man_Alive
UK(SW), 9 mths
Natural_Born_Sub wrote:
Patriarchy has failed!

Look at the state of the world constant conflict, warfare, genocide, slavery, injustice and poverty.

Would Matriarchy do a better job? Would women do a better job ruling our world?

Your thoughts please.

I suspect there is more 'good' and caring consciousness in the world today than there was yesterday, more than there was 10,000 years ago, more than there ever has been across time.

Nature, whether you are an earthworm or a quark, is a place of “constant conflict, warfare, genocide, slavery, injustice and poverty”. Was, is and will be.

The “state of the world” is a perception defined by where you choose to place your attention.

I believe the proportion of the population of the planet focussed on a constructive and caring approach to the world is more now than it has ever been. I believe there are more liberated groups of inspirational young people now than when I was the same age, determined to go out and build a better world. There is hope. I know, of course, that it will be a long winding road. Ultimately we will prevail.

So don't buy into the latest media circus of all that is wrong with the world – 'twas just as much “conflict, warfare, genocide, slavery, injustice and poverty” in Homer's time as now.

Focus your awareness on becoming the best you can be, Man or Woman. Influence the Universe by the choices you make, and understand that the ripples of our consciousness will spread way beyond our own pond. And connect with a Man or Woman, D or s, whose energy helps you to achieve this. And this is why I think this thread is right on the theme of IC.

And in ways often unknown and unseen we will probably contribute to making the reality of our world a steadily better place. I don't know, I only believe. And that is enough for me.

12 Nov 11, 8:54 PM
Domlex
UK(B), 9 yrs

I don't think the altermative would be any better!

I have two lesbian lodgers who regularly bring their respective girl friends and friends home. I regularly come back from work to find 5 or 6 women in my house, (Lucky me I heard you say). But you wouldn't believe the in-fighting and bitching that goes on. I loose track of who's no longer friends with who etc.

Women are just as bad as men, they just have a better public relations department!

DL.

13 Nov 11, 12:29 AM
Sadistia
UK(NG), 10 yrs
valiant1 wrote:
This may be a risky topic for me to post on, .......... girls like to leave us?

GIRLS...... writes a note. Sx

13 Nov 11, 12:30 AM
TheBanker
UK(EC), 2 yrs

Greed corrupts all, no matter their gender.
13 Nov 11, 12:33 AM
Sadistia
UK(NG), 10 yrs
valiant1 wrote:
One last thought for the OP and then I'll shut up:

Yeah right!

valiant1 wrote:
I wonder about the sense ......... more and more countries are moving to tolerate diversity more than ever before.

Yes, there are inequalities and injustices in the world. There always have been, but perhaps the Arab spring gives us hope that there might, in the future be a chance that people might have a real voice in their own future. .........

Apart from the overuse of the word: future, well said.

Sx

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