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| 10 Nov 11, 9:23 PM MisstressvsSolicedog UK(NN), 17 mths  |
Well the thing is it struck a cord with you to bring it up,, so's there must be some validation for you to post,, even if the comments arnt quite as you expected but as you say how it relate's to abusive memo's,, maybe somthing in it all Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish | |
| 10 Nov 11, 9:25 PM chartreuse UK(BA), 6 yrs  |
One thing about online "abuse" here (in IC) is that the person who posts it on the boards, in full public view, is often called to account by so many others (& Admin). Most of the online (public) "abusers" rarely show themselves in a good light, so they do more harm to their own reputation than they do to any of those they attempt to subject to their "abuse". Admin does a good job of monitoring and is swift to react, when required. @The_Coven / @The_Problem_Page, you might give the advice that someone needs. / I want the "Moon on a stick and the Stars suspended from bunting". / So many haystacks, so few needles! / Conserve conversation and converse about conservation! | |
| 10 Nov 11, 9:45 PM misunderstoodslave UK(OL), 2 yrs |
No. Durr. "does heterosexuality condone abuse?" No. "Are there abusive heterosexual relationships?" Yes. "Are there abusive relationships disguised as D/s?" Yes. Durr. Again. I see DV every day in my professional role. I feel sad for women who can't choose their babies over their violent partners. But that has fuck all to do with my desire to be hurt consensually. My babies aren't at risk because I want to have the shit kicked out of me by my beloved Master. It's not complicated. Unless the consent isn't there. | |
| 10 Nov 11, 11:03 PM Grasshopper UK(SE), 2 yrs |
No. Moving on, does cricket condone the plight of the Venezuelan people? Basically as I am seeink it, Ray, the problem is that you are not callink your girlfriend for five months. You see, the hot babies like to feel wanted. If you are not callink them on the phone for a while, it is like a way of saying "you are worst song, played on ugliest guitar" | |
| 10 Nov 11, 11:33 PM ocimum_sanctum UK(EH), 2 yrs |
The article/letter you'd referenced concerns abusive or threatening messages online in general whereas your question asked does BSDM condone abuse. Your follow-up question is arguably worse. So what did you intend to be discussed, the article you linked to or your question? -- | |
| 10 Nov 11, 11:39 PM RanDesu UK(WA), 16 mths   |
No | |
| 11 Nov 11, 12:24 AM Platinum UK(W), 9 yrs |
Do others here check out a posters profile or posting history if they do not recognise them before they decide how to respond to something they have posted?
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| 11 Nov 11, 1:43 PM page_boy UK(CR), 6 yrs |
Does BDSM condone abuse? I will answer your question and ignore the link (as I also can not see its relevance). Does hitting and inflicting pain or having pain inflicted (BDSM) accept or allow behaviour considered morally wrong (condone) the improper use or treatment (abuse). I would say that it does. The moral defence that is used is consent, I would think that without consent we would just about all see hitting and inflicting pain as generally abusive. Therefore the consent is used to condone the abuse. Does condoning the action of abuse make it not abusive? I would think that if the person inflicting the pain is taking pleasure there is a conflict of interests, especially if the pleasure of the inflicter is the primary or only aim. How many of these who inflict pain in a BDSM context are doing it for no gain? Consent and the ability to grant consent is an interesting area. It could be argued that to grant someone permission to inflict pain on you (apart from for limited reason such as surgery) is indeed a sign that you are not in a fit state of mind to grant this permission. Is this not why the law would not recognise consent as a defence to an assault charge? From the masochist perspective asking or encouraging someone to inflict pain on you is a form of mistreatment, or indeed self-abuse. When someone constantly gets into fights it is often said that this is because they don't like themself, it is a form of masochism, there is often a smoke screen such as 'he was looking at my pint' used to condone the activity. In the context of the submissive this condoning takes the form of we are 'playing a consensual game' and therefore it can also be concluded that BDSM condones this abuse. For clarity, the questioner did not ask does BDSM condone all types of abuse, it clearly doesn't. Neither do they ask is BDSM always abusive, which would require a much more definite answer. However, I believe I have shown that in certain circumstances BDSM does condone abuse. It is always best to be aware of the pitfalls. | |
| 11 Nov 11, 4:01 PM Altissimus UK(NW), 5 yrs |
More immediately pressing to my mind is this question: "Does yummy home-made chocolate cake condone obesity?" | |
| 11 Nov 11, 7:57 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs |
I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I have certainly met tops of both sexes that are essentially abusive, and use The Scene as a place to find people to prey on. We are going to have a wonderful time at Night of the Cane; why not join us? |
