Sex/Relationship Education (19)

As a young teen all of my fantisies, including my very first sexual fantasies, all revolved around being very controlling towards women. I was having these fantisies long before I knew porn existed let alone watched it.

These thoughts worried me a bit at the time as I thought I was different and perhaps a bit wrong for wanting to take control in such a way. The media is very quick to judge that people that engage in such acts are wrong and media can be very impressionable on young people.

It wasn't until I was 17 that I had my first kiss, at 18 I lost my virginity and 19 I actually embraced my fantisies for real... fact is I spent a lot of my teen years avoiding girls because I was scared by being different.

How is it in a world where we have pastoral services in schools to educate children and guide them through the emotions of growing up we miss out much of the important emotions around sex?

I'm not suggesting for one second that teachers should encourage BDSM but just that there should be guidance given during sex education lessons that ALL forms of consensual sex can be embraced provided they are done safely. Also everyone should be encouraged to talk more openly about sex with their partners, especially while they are new to it.

Lots of young people are embarrassed/ashamed to talk about their fantasies even with those they love because of a social stigma

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I don't think parents or schools need to teach about sexual fantasies.

I don't think we are, I'm not, the many peeps of I.C. and many other websites can't all be. Historically there has been all sorts of smut other there, Dirty and Saucy Postcards, Sexual Revolution of the 60's Carry On, Julian and Sandy male gayness was ilegal at the time, yet these charters were loved by millions. What the Butler saw and tons of Victorian and ever other era porn etc, etc. Loads of filth in fact

I think, which is why I write this and challenge the O.P. is this Sterotype of The British Sexuality is too often trotted out, thus preservin it in the process.

I think the Brits are Earthy, Dirty Fuckers who can be suprisingly torelant and We should recognise and celebrate this more often, thus shiftin attitudes in the process. So cum-on get yer kit orf

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I agree with you there. Just watch our mainstream TV channels to see how sex is openly discussed, swearing is accepted as the norm. "Fuck, piss, bollocks, cunt" are trotted out on the BBC and Channel4 even on programmes like QI!!

The U.S is far more prudish, swearing on terrestrial channels is banned, as is any nudity including boobs. Just think back to the Janet Jackson saga when her nipple got "accidently" exposed during the Superbowl. Middle America went ballistic. They wrote to their Congressmen, newspapers, TV channels et al in disgust!!

The idea that they got to see a nipple and a black woman's one at that on prime time TV was an afront to their way of life! In places like Bumfuck, Alabama and other redneck crapholes, they must have been dusting down their white sheets with the pointy hats getting ready to burn some crosses on lawns and go a'lynching like in the old days.

In fact, based on the complaints and letters written to Congress they were more concerned in 2003 about the nipple incident than the plane loads of U.S soldiers coming back in body bags from Iraq at the time. Now, that is properly fucked up.

So we in Britain are much more liberal and open minded about pretty much everything versus the yanks.

I can't remember any British sporting events where a celebrity has got her nips out...

I think you are repeating the same misconceptions about Americans as the original OP did about us British.

I can remember reading an article in The Economist debunking such myths by using indicators for pre-martial sex, incidence of sexually transmitted diseases, age at which young people became sexually active, number of partners, consumption of pornography etc which confirmed the USA's position towards the top of any such international comparison.

Another article I read elsewhere (just after the first Bush victory) showed that divorce and illegitimate births, were counter intuitively, higher in red states than blue.

The stereotyping of American's (usually negative), brings to mind George Segal's exchange with Glenda Jackson, in 'A Touch of Class'.

It's a big place. Which "typically American" Americans do you mean? The cab drivers in New York? The coalminers in Pennsylvania? The students at Berkeley? The Mormons in Utah? The Harlem Globetrotters? The daughters of the American Revolution, you mean those? I'll tell you, they're all throwing rocks at each other. The only thing "typically American" about million Americans... ...is that they never do anything "typically" alike and that goes for humping, too.

Edited 30 Oct 11, 8:37 AM by abbo27

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Not shock, not horror but largly seen as a bit of rude fun.A nation embraced her, or wanted to !

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Edited 30 Oct 11, 9:22 AM by pleasureswitch

Where did I use the term "typically American" in my post??? I used the Superbowl nipple incident and use of swear words on TV to illustrate the general attitude as a country they have to things we in the UK take in our stride.

Don't you think the contrast in complaints and outrage from the general public plus news coverage of "Nipplegate" says a lot about attitudes to nudity and by extrapolation sexual discussion/openess in the U.S as a whole??

If you can't look at a tit on TV in the 21st Century without writing to Congress you must have prudish tendencies. Even Mary Whitehouse gave up on trying to "save" Britain in the 1970's from our "moral decline" !!!

America is a big country you say?? Really?? Thanks for enlightening me. Knowing it has 300 million people vs our 60 million or that the whole of the UK would fit into Texas is a good clue.

Also as regards pornography "Playboy" and predominantly soft porn dominated the U.S porn market for years prior to the internet. European hardcore was much more readily available in Europe. Even in Britain "top shelf magazines" although not hardcore made Playboy look tame. Back in those days plenty of copies of Fiesta "Reader's Wives", Escort or Razzle ended up with their pages stuck together!! Playboy was more on a par with Page 3 of the Sun.

Another example is topless sunbathing, only a few states in the US permit it on public beaches.

If you read what I originally wrote I clearly was referring to "Middle America" in regard to prudishness. That's a huge swathe of the country but not the bulk of the population. Although in these mainly Republican states (Red) you will find more than their fair share of intolerant, anti-liberal, introspective, least travelled and xenaphobic people in the ....enough adjectives there to make a sweeping generalisation but hey! It's no co-incidence Jewish, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, many black people and gay people choose to live on the East/West coasts.

These are the Rebulican (Red) states which you are surprised at for having high illegitimate birth rates and divorce. The East and West coasts by being Democrats I assume you mean more liberal should have higher rates??

Not necessarily so as the East/West coasts also have the major population centres with many wealthy and educated people more likely to use contraception or have abortions. No ideaabout divorce explanation. Maybe more people in East/West coast co-habit and don't marry as young.