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Fri 28 Oct 11, 6:31 PM
MistressAdara
UK(NW), 4 yrs
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Another reason for censorship and prosecution of our lifestyle.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/vincent-tabaks-secret-f...

Joanna Yeates' killer Vincent Tabak had a secret fetish for pornography depicting women being strangled and tied up in car boots.

28 Oct 11, 6:35 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 14 yrs

Isn't the claim he only looked for it after strangling her then transporting her body in a car boot? At the same time he was also researching forensic techniques, manslaughter sentences, decomposition rates etc.

:T:

ETA The prosecution wanted to use this evidence against him, but the judge ruled it was inadmissable because it was limited to the time after her death.

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Edited 28 Oct 11, 6:53 PM by Tanos

28 Oct 11, 6:37 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

Tanos wrote:
Isn't the claim he only looked for it after strangling her then transporting her body in a car boot? At the same time he was also researching forensic techniques, manslaughter sentences, decomposition rates etc.

:T:

Yep. The BBC news report says he looked at these sites after the murder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-149...

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28 Oct 11, 6:47 PM
MistressAdara
UK(NW), 4 yrs
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The yahoo report claims that Tabak had downloaded images which directly influenced his methodology: "Images found on his computers showed men gripping female victims by the throat in the same way he killed Miss Yeates.

After her death Tabak drove around with her body in the boot of his Renault Megane.

Three pictures were of a petite, blonde woman who was dressed in a pink T-shirt and jeans, just like Ms Yeates on the night he killed her.

The woman was filmed with her top pulled up, just like the position in which Ms Yeates' body was found after Tabak dumped it in a country lane."

28 Oct 11, 7:17 PM
DrTaps
AQ, 10 yrs
But, so far, it seems that he was looking at this stuff only afterwards.

Don't expect that will stop the tabloids having a field day with this and maybe even using it to "justify" outing bdsm people in order to boost flagging sales though titillating the public.

Even the BBC mentions the "escort agency" in "autumn 2010" during a business trip to Los Angeles. As if that is relevant.

Edited 28 Oct 11, 7:18 PM by DrTaps

28 Oct 11, 7:45 PM
Ima_Kant
UK(PO), 3 yrs

There will only be censorship from the politicians if there are votes to be gleaned from it... and considering the number of people into BDSM I'm not sure that is that likely... we'll see.

As for the papers/media... all they are worried about is sales - mainly for commercial purposes but also for propaganda too - so expect more kinksters to be outed... and as for the facts... well... the first casualty of journalism is truth.

28 Oct 11, 7:59 PM
AngelFingers1
UK(CH), 2 yrs

Out of respect to the loved ones of Joanna Yates...please may we stop discussing the vile murderer and his pathetic "justification" for his terrible crime. Inappropriate for this place.

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28 Oct 11, 8:02 PM
Thought_Policeman
UK(SO), 2 yrs
AngelFingers1 wrote:
Out of respect to the loved ones of Joanna Yates...please may we stop discussing the vile murderer and his pathetic "justification" for his terrible crime. Inappropriate for this place.

Violent pornography was not raised as a justification, but it is definitely a valid discussion point on this site.

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28 Oct 11, 8:18 PM
Andromalius
UK(M), 7 yrs

Telegraph goes even further

This has more of the tone of the Daily Mail about it. All in all, quite abhorrent and one sided

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28 Oct 11, 8:29 PM
ClassAct2005
UK(N), 7 yrs
I think he looked up penalties for sexual offences and it was after the offence.
28 Oct 11, 8:33 PM
Buceph
UK(SE), 15 mths
AngelFingers1 wrote:
Out of respect to the loved ones of Joanna Yates...please may we stop discussing the vile murderer and his pathetic "justification" for his terrible crime. Inappropriate for this place.

Fair point, but the reports on this story, even if not attacking BDSM outright, will have helped turn many further away from seeing BDSM as a safe, sane or indeed consensual lifestyle choice. It's worth thinking about that, especially considering that we're still living under the shadow of the Extreme Porn Act (how's that working out for everyone?).

Personally I'm so angry about the reporting of this that I could spit fretwork in a lump of steel.

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