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| 5 Oct 11, 6:35 PM Rhoobarb UK(FK), 12 yrs |
And you know this, how? As far as I'm led to believe it can be hard to position yourself where groping hands or brushing bodies cannot interact with you due to the sheer numbers of people crammed together. Are you making the assumption that women have positioned themselves deliberately where they have so that you or others can grope them? Why not ask before you do it next time, you know, lean forward and whisper in her ear "I'm about to grope you, let me know if you're going to object?"
And how is this any different from a man "accidentally" brushing his lower regions against you as he passes? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edited 5 Oct 11, 6:39 PM by Rhoobarb | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 6:39 PM ToakReon UK(RH), 12 yrs |
Groping a woman on the tube is sexual assault. No "ifs" or "butts" (and that last word isn't intended as a pun). Whether the OPs wife enjoyed it, or hated it, or responded to the feelings of abuse by "convincing herself" she enjoyed it as some sort of defense makes no difference. Being groped on the train is a common fantasy - but like all other fantasies it needs to be "played" in the context of proper consent. *UPDATE* Model(s) for "how to" bondage photographs (and other bondage photographs) have now been found. Thank you to all who showed interest. | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 6:46 PM mini_velvet UK(EH), 6 yrs |
It's very easy in hindsight, or total lack of experience, to say what someone *should* have done. In reality it just adds to the shame and guilt of victims of sexual assault. | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 6:57 PM NANA777 UK(SW), 3 yrs |
Is this post to me? If so... I don't believe any kind of reports in general, I don't think they show accurate numbers because the way they conduct. But I put those numbers here so at least people here get very rough idea. Doesn't matter if it is 70% or 40%, you just could know it is at least not only 2%. FYI, I can say that about 80-90% of my friends and aqcuaintances who I have known(mostly my own age group) were a victim at least once. | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 7:08 PM Betony UK, 7 yrs |
I experienced acts like this on the tube too and kept very quiet about them which doesn't mean I didn't react. I kneed one man between the legs on one occasion and on two other occasions pushed men off the tube after I'd waited for them to approach the door first. A good shove in the back resulted in one of them falling face first onto the platform. In non-tube related incidents, I've also run up behind men who've thought they could grab me and then walk away, and whacked them around the head a few times. The reaction to the shock of suddenly being pushed or whacked from behind by an irate, but silent, woman is a sight to behold. As you said, cowards. edited to add that, without going into the gory details, the incidents on the Tube were more overt than something that could have been mistaken for an accident - there was no doubt as to what they were up to.
I want you like a soldier wants the smell of home, like Robson wants Jerome Edited 5 Oct 11, 7:47 PM by Betony | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 7:17 PM Shypeachybottom UK, 20 mths |
^^ very true as a *fantasy* it can be hot, but as an unconsensual act, it is unwelcome and not at all pleasant it is very easy to say step on the person's foot or say something loudly, but not usually that easy to do, in part because in a crowded tube, you aren't necessarily sure that they are actively groping you and it would be mortifying to say something out loud and have them deny it I have on occasion 'accidentally' swung a briefcase into someone's shin by stumbling or stepped on their foot - if they were groping me, they got the message and stepped away, if they weren't (and were only accidentally touching me) then they just thought I was clumsy or rude (both of which I can live with!) There's a somebody I'm longing to see, I hope that he turns out to be, someone to watch over me | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 7:25 PM mornington_crescent UK(CB), 3 yrs |
What you wear won't protect you. One of my friends was non-consensually groped (ie. sexually assaulted) while on her bike at a traffic light, wearing a cycle helmet, a 3/4 length skirt, long sleeved jumper and a high visibility vest. Cambridge munches and events: http://www.cambridgekink.co.uk | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 7:41 PM ender11118 UK(W), 7 yrs |
if you can find it watch the film kinjite:forbidden subjects. fantasy it maybe but the consequences of carrying out such an act can be trully dreadful I didn't do it, nobody saw me amd you can't prove a thing! | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 7:46 PM NickiB UK(BS), 3 yrs |
Couldn't you just tell us?
Nicki | ||||
| 5 Oct 11, 7:49 PM ender11118 UK(W), 7 yrs |
take a bit long but basically a japanese man sees a young schoolgirl being gropped on the tokyo underground. He gets sent to america to work, get's drunk and gropes a schoolgirl in america. Unlike the japanese girl that just stood there aqnd looked embarressed just letting it happen the american girl screamed blue murder (which I would recommend). The man escapes but in the meantime his daugghter is kidnapped and forced to work as a child prostatute. It's a very disturbing film but does show the groping shite for exactly what it is. I didn't do it, nobody saw me amd you can't prove a thing! |