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| Wed 21 Sep 11, 6:10 PM JohnnyTooBad UK(SY), 5 yrs   |
Just been having a look at a friend's tenancy agreement. It's a pretty standard form but some of it is pretty alarming....for instance, " The tenant will not: do anything at the property which is illegal or immoral or is a nuisance or annoyance to the landlord" Pretty open ended you will agree,but what got to me was the mention of immoral.By whose standards ? Who says what is and isn't immoral ? By some people's standards I am a pretty immoral type myself (shan't go into details) what hope for us wierdos in this straight world is there? Its getting worse ! Sex and drugs and rock'n'roll is very good indeed! (Ian Drury)......
"He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man"...( Mr Thompson)
It's a thin line between clever and stupid. (Nigel Tufnel..Spinal Tap ) | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:23 PM Black0rchid UK, 2 yrs |
It's an example of what happens once you sell off and dismantle public sector housing.
"You have to take the rough with the smooth with you. I do not think you are the way you are in order to have your rough edges worn off" - F. | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:29 PM x_Lia_x 2 yrs |
Well said!
No point flogging a dead horse! | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:29 PM lilybee  UK(TN), 5 yrs    |
It's a fairly common clause in agreements now days to avoid things like drug dealing and brothels being run, means the landlord can evict without warning really (ok there is more to it than that but I am summarising). If your friend is worried then get them to keep most things out of sight and not to worry too much, landlords are meant to give notice when they want to inspect property, which is often enough time to boot the kit box back under the bed. As for what is and what isn't immoral, well that is definitely open to interpretation, I suppose it depends if the landlord is a highly religious person or a kinkster like us! lily | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:32 PM Mark2006 UK(CB), 6 yrs |
http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/home/tena... Of interest | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:33 PM sirguym UK(HR), 6 yrs |
Fairly standard, I understand. Working girls, Pro-dommes, etc. always used to have to either pay an exhorbitant rent to someone prepared to take the risk of being done for allowing their property to be used for immoral purposes, or expect to move on once someone tipped off the landlord ... or sometimes pay the exhorbitant rent and still have to move when the pressure put off customers. Guy Tawsingham, where everyone can be whomsoever they want to be @Tawsingham_Feudal guy@tawse.com PO Box 135, Hereford, HR2 7WL, UK +44(0)1432 343100 | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:33 PM twilightsilence UK(ME), 16 mths |
We exchanged knowing smiles when my landlords read out the same clause in my tenancy agreement. Mind you, the previous tenant had a pole dancing pole set up in the dining room so I would like to think that my landlords are fairly open-minded! You never know how strong you are, until being strong is the only choice you have. | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 6:47 PM Flogher UK(RM), 9 yrs |
Immoral is a standard phrase and also occurs in my leasehold agreement which is more than 20 years old. Basically if refers to prostitution, bawdy houses, etc. The 'illegal' bit may stem from previous police practices of prosecuting landlords if drugs were used or found on their premises. It happened a few times back in the 1970s but there was such an outcry that prosecution of landlords ceased unless it could be proved that they knew about the drugs. Another standard ban in tenancies, leaseholds and title deeds is preventing the housing or working of 'noxious substances' which was invented to prevent anyone from the leather tanning industry setting up work. These days it has a wider and more environmental meaning. I recently invoked the noxious substances part of a title deed to prevent people using a private driveway as a dogs' toilet. It worked! Flogher - I cane, I whip, I cuddle | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 7:37 PM Attitude_Adjuster UK(N), 6 yrs |
I suspect you think immoral means 'naughty'? And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword! | ||
| 21 Sep 11, 7:51 PM Ianneil UK(N), 5 yrs |
That might have been a disguised acro prop holding up the ceiling.
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| 21 Sep 11, 8:00 PM twilightsilence UK(ME), 16 mths |
Jesus, well she took it with her so I really do hope not!
You never know how strong you are, until being strong is the only choice you have. |
