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male submissives when it went too far? (39)

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2 Sep 11, 8:41 PM
jstripes*
UK(KT), 7 yrs

For me a major part of the whole thing is that I surrender myself to whatever She wishes to carry out.

Short of infliction of permanent disability or death, She cannot go too far because my wish is to submit entirely to the complete satisfaction of Her sadistic desires.

It stops only when She decides that it should and not before. Anything less than that is not enough, but there is no such thing as going too far.

2 Sep 11, 11:38 PM
Godwin
UK, 8 yrs

Can think of one beating that pushed me beyond and really should of worded way before.

Other issues, well other males wanting to 'touch' me. *slap*. Go away!

God's gift - but don't expect it instantly.

4 Sep 11, 8:19 AM
Slave_Rob_35
UK(RH), 2 yrs


Yourfeet_myface wrote:
male submissives when it went too far?

I was just reading a femsubs blog about an incident in her early sub days that went way too far. A male dom beta her badly. I have always felt OK about allowing myself to be tied up and beaten by a woman.I am generally bigger and stronger than most females and women usually don't commit acts of mindless violence. I trust my instincts but once trussed up that could be a big mistake. My question is have any other male subs had a bad experience with a Femdom who went too far?

john

In response to the original quote and a number of posts. There seems to be one thing that stood out and that is the question of violence whether committed by men or women and to whom. I like many, called me old fashioned, was brought up to never hit a lady and do not like that idea (understandable within play is a different matter). Regardless of gender of the Dom/Domme/Top and the sub/slave/bottom it is worth ensuring that SSC is always in our minds.

At the various munches I have been to there has been talk about people going too far and the reactions of some experienced people on the scene has caused me to be extra cautious as to whom I would play with.

On the subject of play going to far here is my story. I have had three different Mistresses (2 Pro-Doms and 1 not). One of the PDs [whom I will not name on here or in person] I was exploring my level of pain tollerance and learning new things as a regular visitor. I decided to push my hard limits for which she checked a couple times in the lead up to starting this activity as during this particular session she had been trying a number of new things with me even s a regular we were effectively having a taster session to develop more ideas for the future. The sessions was going, so well that instead of 2 hours half way through I thought to myself I wished I could stay all day. She acknowledged this was going to be a big challenge for me before starting and again confirmed I was okay. We started on the hardest limit for me to break last and I realised part of the way through I REALLY did not like it and used my safeword. She acknowledged the safeword but said tough despite my pleas to stop she continued. I felt violated and the trust had been broken. I have since not returned to her which is a shame as she was an excellent Domme, and I would even go as far as saying someone I would be honoured to be seen out with, but the trust I had in her has been damaged beyond repair.

5 Sep 11, 8:22 AM
Black0rchid
UK, 2 yrs

Yourfeet_myface wrote:
male submissives when it went too far?

roblxxx wrote:
The Israeli Army took women OFF frontline duties because they were too violent.

Can we have the footnote to that please; so we can read the - research - ourselves.

"You have to take the rough with the smooth with you. I do not think you are the way you are in order to have your rough edges worn off" - F.

Edited 5 Sep 11, 12:14 PM by Black0rchid

5 Sep 11, 1:15 PM
Norm_de_Plume
UK(E), 11 yrs
roblxxx wrote:
The Israeli Army took women OFF frontline duties because they were too violent.

They were originally taken off frontline duties when it was established that as soon as a female soldier was wounded, the other men in the unit would stop attacking to tend to her. They now serve alongside the men, says wiki.

5 Sep 11, 2:13 PM
luxuri8
UK(RG), 6 yrs
Slave_Rob_35 wrote:

On the subject of play going to far here is my story. I have had three different Mistresses (2 Pro-Doms and 1 not). One of the PDs [whom I will not name on here or in person] I was exploring my level of pain tollerance and learning new things as a regular visitor. I decided to push my hard limits for which she checked a couple times in the lead up to starting this activity as during this particular session she had been trying a number of new things with me even s a regular we were effectively having a taster session to develop more ideas for the future. The sessions was going, so well that instead of 2 hours half way through I thought to myself I wished I could stay all day. She acknowledged this was going to be a big challenge for me before starting and again confirmed I was okay. We started on the hardest limit for me to break last and I realised part of the way through I REALLY did not like it and used my safeword. She acknowledged the safeword but said tough despite my pleas to stop she continued. I felt violated and the trust had been broken. I have since not returned to her which is a shame as she was an excellent Domme, and I would even go as far as saying someone I would be honoured to be seen out with, but the trust I had in her has been damaged beyond repair.

When is a safeword not a safeword? Looking at it from her perspective, you had asked her (repeatedly) to push your limits, and she proceeded to do exactly what you asked. I am sure she did what she did not out of malice or recklessness, but because her perception of what you could take was different to yours. You feel betrayed and lost trust in her, but equally she could argue she gave you an experience you would not have otherwise had - she gave you a genuine insight into what your limits are, not what you believe them to be.

As a result of that experience did your perception of your limits change? Would you say having the experience has enhanced or reduced your pleasure in submission?

5 Sep 11, 5:24 PM
Slave_Rob_35
UK(RH), 2 yrs


luxuri8 wrote:
Slave_Rob_35 wrote:

On the subject of play going to far here is my story. I have had three different Mistresses (2 Pro-Doms and 1 not). One of the PDs [whom I will not name on here or in person] I was exploring my level of pain tollerance and learning new things as a regular visitor. I decided to push my hard limits for which she checked a couple times in the lead up to starting this activity as during this particular session she had been trying a number of new things with me even s a regular we were effectively having a taster session to develop more ideas for the future. The sessions was going, so well that instead of 2 hours half way through I thought to myself I wished I could stay all day. She acknowledged this was going to be a big challenge for me before starting and again confirmed I was okay. We started on the hardest limit for me to break last and I realised part of the way through I REALLY did not like it and used my safeword. She acknowledged the safeword but said tough despite my pleas to stop she continued. I felt violated and the trust had been broken. I have since not returned to her which is a shame as she was an excellent Domme, and I would even go as far as saying someone I would be honoured to be seen out with, but the trust I had in her has been damaged beyond repair.

When is a safeword not a safeword? Looking at it from her perspective, you had asked her (repeatedly) to push your limits, and she proceeded to do exactly what you asked. I am sure she did what she did not out of malice or recklessness, but because her perception of what you could take was different to yours. You feel betrayed and lost trust in her, but equally she could argue she gave you an experience you would not have otherwise had - she gave you a genuine insight into what your limits are, not what you believe them to be.

As a result of that experience did your perception of your limits change? Would you say having the experience has enhanced or reduced your pleasure in submission?

I understand what you are saying but we both entered into this particular activity knowing how I felt. We knew we were trying new things and pushing the boundaries but I had explained my concerns beforehand and she took those onboard at the start. After we started the second new activity and I became unhappy with the situation I was very clear to her that I wanted to stop by using the safeword and through plain English therefore making it very clear, whilst remaining polite throughout, that it had gone too far past the boundaries of what i could deal with. It could have been worked around very easily but my begging for mercy (no overstating the situation) was not taken into consideration.

On a previous occassion I was taken ill during a session and she showed compassion during that time therefore this made it was such a change in character. Naturally it is not appropriate to go into too much detail as it might give the PD's identity away which is the last thing I want to do. I have decided not to return to her and that is sufficient. for me.

In relation to the questions at the end of the quoted article I am now with that particular BDSM activity as a hard limit and it has effected my willingness to push my limits so freely. I have since played with a friend but she understands me very well and often we joke about how sometimes she knows how I feel before I do.

Has it enhanced or reduced my pleasure? Hard question - it has made me more cautious I still enjoy certain things and that has not changed at all but when moving onto other things I am increasily concerned, so therefore 50/50 really.

5 Sep 11, 6:49 PM
Vixsun
UK(SE), 2 yrs
I guess I must hold my hands up here. I too have gone too far with a sub but luckily not to the extent that he was in any danger or harm.

Though I agree sub males should not let their pride overrule and in so resist expressing any discomfort or pain they are experiencing, they on the other hand should be able trust the dom/me they are playing with.

ViXSuN
cute, sexy and oh so fatal - evil scientist laugh

5 Sep 11, 7:36 PM
CookieMonster
UK, 6 yrs
Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
Eleise wrote:
roblxxx wrote:
Yourfeet_myface wrote:
male submissives when it went too far?

I was just reading a femsubs blog about an incident in her early sub days that went way too far. A male dom beta her badly. I have always felt OK about allowing myself to be tied up and beaten by a woman.I am generally bigger and stronger than most females and women usually don't commit acts of mindless violence. I trust my instincts but once trussed up that could be a big mistake. My question is have any other male subs had a bad experience with a Femdom who went too far?

john

Simply not true. Women are responsible, for example in public houses, acts of violence in direct proportion to their nimbers, according to research carried out by the landlords Association. The Israeli Army took women OFF frontline duties because they were too violent.

However, I'd take issue with the word "mindless". Unlikemen, women are unable to route the acts of violence through the forebrain, as men do, but route it straightthrough the amygdala, meaning that once women staqe on violent behaviour they are unable to control it and won't stop it until they're exhausted. This is what Feminist really mean when they say me should get in touch with theior Feminine side :-)

How did you come by this bit of misinformation about women being unable to route acts of violence through the forebrain?

And your ideas about why the Isreali forces have prohibited women from serving in close combat military operations is also entirely incorrect. Where did you get that one from?

He makes it up as he goes along to bolster his own anti-women agenda. He's well known for it.

Really? I thought he was a comedian, is this guy for real?

6 Sep 11, 12:48 PM
Slave_Rob_35
UK(RH), 2 yrs


Vixsun wrote:
I guess I must hold my hands up here. I too have gone too far with a sub but luckily not to the extent that he was in any danger or harm.

Though I agree sub males should not let their pride overrule and in so resist expressing any discomfort or pain they are experiencing, they on the other hand should be able trust the dom/me they are playing with.

I fully agree with you statement. I felt I should be able to trust the person in my case but that was damaged beyond repair. If someone says this is a hard limit that I wish to try but I am not entirely happy with, then I suspect most people would be willing to carry on but be ready respond to changing circumstances where possible.

Edited 6 Sep 11, 12:49 PM by Slave_Rob_35

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