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| Sat 27 Aug 11, 1:18 PM Jons_Amaranth UK(WS), 11 yrs |
On my facebook feed someone had a post about Marriage being Marriage, not gay marriage. Just don't you don't have gay tea, gay cakes etc. (I think the person who posted it is on here but am not sure). This got me thinking, I know, strange but once every few years I do. I am, as almost anyone who has read my ramblings will know, in a long term relationship, married, mortgaged the whole kit and caboodle. So why is it a D/s relationship, it isn't, it is a relationship, and D/s is our way of doing some things, just like being a vegan is a way of gaining nourishment. Just like it is not biker relationship. The D/s is a rule book for your relationship, just like the highway code is a rule book for your bike, the difference being you (or at least one of you) write the relationship rule book yourself. It doesn't need any qualifier. All you need for a relationship is:- To like each other To set boundaries and only change them by agreement To be honest. To communicate To respect each other To share areas of your life (not just D/s) Simples. Here endeth the wisdom for another few years. Dons flame proof clothing, cunningly disguised as red wine, well it is a bank holiday weekend, and qualifying is on. Now maybe an F1 relationship.... mmmm
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| 27 Aug 11, 4:36 PM SinPar US, 12 yrs |
SinPar
-- The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis) | ||
| 27 Aug 11, 5:10 PM Reversed 23 mths |
I would be very reluctant to describe a relationship I was in as d/s, for a number of reasons. I think the strongest of these is that, especially in the early stages, a relationship needs as much air and space as it can get. It can be a fragile thing for a while and so keeping labels and other forms of potential luggage away from it seems to be a good thing. When it is strong, then it will define itself and will grow and evolve, redefining as it goes. It is a human thing - it lives and breathes, and so naming it in one specific way is something I would do with very great care. The wrong name could surely be damaging? I suspect the freer it stays of names and definitions the better really. Heaven knows, there is enough involved in keeping relationships alive and healthy as it is.... That's probably 3 pence worth really.....
As ever, imho Love is when you kiss all the time. Then when you get tired of kissing, you still want to be together and you talk more. | ||
| 27 Aug 11, 5:28 PM vixylix 2 yrs |
Liked what the OP said and loved what Reversed said. Spot on in my book. (Though I know other people read other books!)
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| 27 Aug 11, 5:40 PM NimueBanditQueen UK(MK), 2 yrs |
Wholeheartedly seconded.
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| 27 Aug 11, 6:14 PM Shypeachybottom UK, 20 mths |
^^ completely agree with this For me D/s is or should be a theme which underpins a relationship, as opposed to a way of interacting in the bedroom. It is 24/7 because I am me and he is him all the time, submissive and dominant, and so we always click together in that way, even when we are doing completely vanilla things. So my D/s is more TiH than bedroom play, and there is no “break” between “vanilla” and “D/s”, because the two blend together seamlessly. And as a result, it is a relationship which just happens to have D/s as a flavour or - as the OP says - rule book - the only difference is that the two partners have agreed upfront how certain situations and aspects of their relationship will operate (and have certain pleasures and 'hobbies' in common!). Simples! There's a somebody I'm longing to see, I hope that he turns out to be, someone to watch over me | ||
| 27 Aug 11, 6:18 PM Phallocrat 12 mths |
+1 this. The characteristics of a happy, healthy and long relationship remain the same regardless of its D/s or vanilla nature. D/s can be an underlying theme, but what makes a relationship work is common regardless of the gender, sexual orientation or kinkiness level of its participants. No matter what the question is, the answer's still 42! | ||
| 27 Aug 11, 6:47 PM Grownup_Frankie UK, 4 yrs |
"A rose by any other name will smell as sweet"... | ||
| 28 Aug 11, 11:20 AM Souci_X UK(BA), 5 yrs |
I don't describe my relationship as anything other than a relationship. The man I am with is my partner as much as any relationship is a partner. We are no different or special than any other relationship either. We are together because, in the most part, it works. We do things to make the other happy and change things that don't, again like any other relationship. Problem is of course online, on a BDSM website there is all the emphasis on the D/s there is all the one upmanship etc that skews the actual reality of the relationship. When you turn the computer off you are just two (or more) people working together to try and get it right. | ||
| 28 Aug 11, 10:17 PM fitzcaraldo UK(BA), 6 yrs |
I suppose some people will say that Ds defines their relationship and that's why it exists, but you're quite right that for many, it is only a component. It's often discussed on here , could you have a relationship without Ds and some people say they try but can't. So how many people in relationships that start out from Ds will happily drop that part ? Fitz. Escaped from the parallel universe | ||
| 28 Aug 11, 10:41 PM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs |
You cannot get married if you are gay u nder English law. Some people get that right and refer to their civil partner and others say married when they aren't which is wrong and confusing and should be stamped out. There are a few countries in the world where you can properly get married if you're gay. The British bar on gay people marrying has been challenged but it failed. I believe it was brought by the lesbian daughter of the British childbirth guru Sheila Kitzinger. Her daughter failed in that challenge. So never let it be wrongly say that under English law gay couples married. That just shows someone up to be rather stupid and not having read the law. It's a really really important issue. They don't marry. They form something different called a civil partnership. |