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Libel and defamation of character (24)

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Fri 26 Aug 11, 10:13 AM
MadamRattan
UK(NE), 6 yrs
£
Has this happened to anyone here? maybe on facebook? maybe a work colleague that knows about your kinks and interprets them as something else.

If it has please pm me or tell us all about it please, if you dont mind sharing it.

Does anyone know a good libel lawyer? Someone kink friendly preferably but not essential.

Edited Fri 26 Aug 11, 10:15 AM by MadamRattan

26 Aug 11, 12:56 PM
SinPar
US, 12 yrs
MadamRattan wrote:
Libel and defamation of character

Has this happened to anyone here? maybe on facebook? maybe a work colleague that knows about your kinks and interprets them as something else.

If it has please pm me or tell us all about it please, if you dont mind sharing it.

Does anyone know a good libel lawyer? Someone kink friendly preferably but not essential.

What did they write about you? Inquiring minds want to know.

SinPar

-- The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis)

26 Aug 11, 1:01 PM
MisstressvsSolicedog
UK(NN), 17 mths
well importantly write down what you know allready what was said where and to who, times places etc

these are historicly important in the context of any action you may or may not make,

going the legal route could cost you a bloody fortune

however there are steps you can take via the courts by makeing your own applications to the courts for effectivly a gagging order,,

i use the word gagging ill adviserly because i can't recall the correct names proceedures but this is something you can do yourself but takes research

Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish

26 Aug 11, 1:24 PM
striped1
UK(YO), 11 yrs

MadamRattan wrote:
Libel and defamation of character

Has this happened to anyone here? maybe on facebook? maybe a work colleague that knows about your kinks and interprets them as something else.

If it has please pm me or tell us all about it please, if you dont mind sharing it.

Does anyone know a good libel lawyer? Someone kink friendly preferably but not essential.

Carter-Ruck is probably the best libel specialist firm in the UK:

http://www.carter-ruck.com/Home/

They sometimes take up cases on a no-win, no-fee basis if they are strong enough.

27 Aug 11, 12:51 AM
sirguym
UK(HR), 6 yrs
The trouble is, in my experience, that most of those prone to libel, slander and defame are either: '(wo)men of straw' who aren't worth suing, or so wealthy their lawyers can outgun yours; and even if you won, you'll not get the money!

Guy

Tawsingham, where everyone can be whomsoever they want to be @Tawsingham_Feudal guy@tawse.com PO Box 135, Hereford, HR2 7WL, UK +44(0)1432 343100

27 Aug 11, 1:12 AM
doulos
UK(SW), 7 yrs
misstressvsdog wrote:
well importantly write down what you know allready what was said where and to who, times places etc

these are historicly important in the context of any action you may or may not make,

going the legal route could cost you a bloody fortune

however there are steps you can take via the courts by makeing your own applications to the courts for effectivly a gagging order,,

i use the word gagging ill adviserly because i can't recall the correct names proceedures but this is something you can do yourself but takes research

I think you might be talking about an injunction. They can be effective in some contexts. But civil action can get expensive remarkably quickly.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." H. L. Mencken

27 Aug 11, 1:15 AM
Ponyboy_uk
UK(NN), 17 mths
I covered the basics of this in a course but it was about ten years ago. The libel we learned about was mainly regarding traditional print media. Written and case law have probably altered since then, especially regarding e-stuff like facebook etc.

Feel free to ask or PM if you wish although I imagine there are people better able to advice.

27 Aug 11, 8:28 PM
MadamRattan
UK(NE), 6 yrs
£
I have had some very sound advice from Backlash, who advise me that a better avenue may be to go to the police (who have been most supportive in the past) and talk to them about harrassment, apparently they can issue a '1st instance of Harrassment Order' and go from there.

I dont want to go into the wording but if he/she had called us a couple of tossers it would not have been so bad!! it was much worse than that, some true and some untrue. As someone has pointed out, its how the wording is taken by the 'general public' and with what they called us they would probably be reverting to the dictionary, and what made it worse was they named the company and therefore brought it into disrepute.

27 Aug 11, 9:22 PM
MisstressvsSolicedog
UK(NN), 17 mths
Mistress was looking over this thread,,,

and yes i think police first

but and dare i say

( please dont think im being ( overly serious )because i don't know what kind of lawyer it is but

ScotchMystry,,,, YAY !! he's a lawyer

Please excuse crap spelling cause i,m rubbish

27 Aug 11, 9:28 PM
MasterKermit
UK(NW), 12 mths

Hi,

Speaking as a Law grad who has done a fair bit of research in this area:

Unless you have a serious pot of funds available then defamation is often unwise to pursue; it is one of the most expensive forms of private law and even if you obtain damages they're usually minimal and costs are rarely completely recovered.

Backlash has given good advice when suggesting approaching the police first if the circumstances are appropriate and constitute harassment. There is also the added benefit that police reports, etc, could be used to back up your claim if you did decide to pursue and action for damages or an injunction.

Context is everything and there is not much info here to work with... one thing to consider is where these statements against you are being made. If online or in a paper of some sort contacting the moderator/editor may be of use if they have a policy to remove/block offensive/libelous statements.

Best of luck!

27 Aug 11, 9:31 PM
SirOpenSource
UK(E), 6 yrs


Before you consider any legal action of any kind you may be interested to read the linked article below.

http://www.libelreform.org/the-report?start=4

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