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NHS Worker sacked for wearing a collar (32)

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Tue 23 Aug 11, 11:22 PM
BusMaster
UK(NG), 9 yrs

HI all

Was just looking at the Gaurdian web site and noticed a story that might be of interest..

Here's the link Midwife dismissed for wearing a silver Collar.

Seems that the Local NHS trust doesn't like Collars on there Midwives.. they sitre Health and Safety laws to give her the Sack

What do you think ?

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23 Aug 11, 11:28 PM
scarletwitch
UK, 4 yrs

http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/300989/6/...

23 Aug 11, 11:29 PM
SirDreadly
UK(CF), 5 yrs

That's all rather intriguing. I like the way they outlined, in detail, how the wearing of the silver, and presumably stainless steel collar, (Not the collar in the photograph, incidentally), constituted a health and safety liability. Seriously though, it's an optimistic glimpse into the possibilities that are out there, in regards to this becoming about 'philosophical beliefs' and such.

As ever, someone has to lose out, usually needlessly, to then take up that opportunity to stand up and be counted.

I applaud them.

I didn't like the way the piece was written, but I digress.

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Edited 23 Aug 11, 11:37 PM by SirDreadly

23 Aug 11, 11:29 PM
Rhoobarb
UK(FK), 12 yrs
I think it also spawned this thread?

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23 Aug 11, 11:30 PM
bohnanza
UK(FK), 12 yrs

BusMaster wrote:

What do you think ?

I think you are a week too late. There has already been a thread on it and the outcome of that thread was, she deserved to be sacked because she thought being an infection risk was less important than carrying a symbol.

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23 Aug 11, 11:42 PM
goodghirl
UK, 8 yrs
wasn't it busmaster that brought us GOTB?
24 Aug 11, 6:14 AM
roblxxx
UK(PO), 17 mths

bohnanza wrote:
BusMaster wrote:

What do you think ?

I think you are a week too late. There has already been a thread on it and the outcome of that thread was, she deserved to be sacked because she thought being an infection risk was less important than carrying a symbol.

I suppose it's too late to point out that silver is a known antibiotic? Bandages that contain silver particles have been proven to reduce post-operative infection, and have a beneficial effect in situations where the wound is already infected, so that particular reason for dismissal could be contested. I think you have to look for another reason, usually personal (i.e. the boss just doesn't like her).

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24 Aug 11, 6:26 AM
Schwergewicht
UK, 3 yrs
It's a clear cross-infection health risk and I would be pretty pissed off if one of my loved ones became ill because of her inconsideration and, I have to say, either ignorance of the rules (which I think is unlikely) or stupidity.

In all food production and many healthcare arenas it's serious issue and absolutely proven to present unnecessary risk.

How incovenient it would have been for her to remove it for work-and if it was required by her Dom/mme then they need to be educated too...I guess they will have been now

24 Aug 11, 7:05 AM
lush_london
UK(WC), 6 yrs
As was pointed out on the other threads this would be a clear breech of NHS uniform policy. Necklaces including crucifixes are not allowed so why should this be an exception? Even the NHS issue lanyards have a quick release clasp on them in case someone grabs them or they are caught up in something. IMO the woman and her Dom are idiots.
24 Aug 11, 7:33 AM
Lady_Lancashire
23 mths
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A midwife recently lost a case against her Trust for refusing to wear trousers as part of her uniform. Her grounds were that her Christian beliefs meant skirts the only option. I would rather the money spent on such cases was used on actual patient treatment.

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24 Aug 11, 8:16 AM
FreeKinker
UK(PE), 10 yrs

Quite so, unfortunately it is usually crackpot Christian groups in these cases who insist on pursuing such cases insisting they are being victimised for their faith. So it is important that the rules are adhered to uniformly to avoid such cases having any chance of success. The more important cases at the moment though are those around people with faith who want to be exempt from rules preventing discrimination to other groups such as gay people in providing public services. This has to be prevented as religious groups are invited to take over more and more schools and other public services if we really want to avoid real discrimination.

The EHRC have made noises about religious beliefs needing more protection and outrageously Trevor Phillips said they were there to protect religious people [not all protected groups].

The fact is in most of the cases that have arisen so far the employers have been more than accommodating in trying to find solutions and be reasonable as the EHRC want, but unfortunately a side effect of equality legislation is some people making a big issue to protect their own tribal interests, rather than accepting reasonable restrictions in employment.

Lady_Lancashire wrote:
A midwife recently lost a case against her Trust for refusing to wear trousers as part of her uniform. Her grounds were that her Christian beliefs meant skirts the only option. I would rather the money spent on such cases was used on actual patient treatment.

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