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Nikon D5000 flash control query (11)

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Elle_in_France
Posted by Elle_in_France* on Sun 21 Aug 11, 11:17 AM to the Kinky_Camera_Group group.

I got a D5000 recently, after a break from photography of far too many years. I find I am having huge problems getting any kind of control over flash. It's either OFF (now the usual case) or AUTO, in which case, the camera takes over, and it seems to be extremely inconsistent. Without altering anything at all, it will take several shots with flash and several without, so all the careful set ups for a shot are likely to end with a wasted effort, and after an hour's shooting, the frustration begins to show in the pictures.

I've searched through the manual looking for an answer, but I can't find anything useful. At the moment, it looks like all dark dungeon shots will have to be taken with fixed lighting instead.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this?

Louisa

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21 Aug 11, 12:43 PM
Bubbles_2
UK(E), 6 yrs
Set the top rotating button to P rather than Auto. T hen if you do want flash, press the button on the side and the flash will pop up.

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22 Aug 11, 3:19 PM
Elle_in_France*
UK, 2 yrs
Bubbles_2 wrote:
Set the top rotating button to P rather than Auto. T hen if you do want flash, press the button on the side and the flash will pop up.

But only if the camera thinks it wants flash... I cannot make it trigger flash regardless of it's own sensors. Which seem to be extremely inconsistent. I'm doing studio set-ips with a flash sender on the hot shoe talking to three flash heads, and five times out of ten, even in low lighting, it decides it will run a long exposure instead of firing the flash.

This applies to all settings that invoke flash.

22 Aug 11, 4:13 PM
Bubbles_2
UK(E), 6 yrs
If you have the pop-up flash up or the flash on and the mode button set to anything other than Auto, it should trigger the flash irrespective of ambient light.

If not, have you checked the flash settings on the menu?

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22 Aug 11, 6:34 PM
tanken
UK(NR), 2 yrs

I don't have the Nikon D5000 but when I use multiple flash of any variety (flashguns or studio lighting) I set all my cameras to manual, chose the shutter speed to either include or exclude ambient light and meter for the aperture :)

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26 Aug 11, 4:32 PM
Elle_in_France*
UK, 2 yrs
Bubbles_2 wrote:
If you have the pop-up flash up or the flash on and the mode button set to anything other than Auto, it should trigger the flash irrespective of ambient light.

If not, have you checked the flash settings on the menu?

Effectively, I can choose flash off, or flash not off. If it(s not off, the camera decides (badly) whether to use it or not. I can find no menu settings which over-ride this.

Elle
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26 Aug 11, 5:01 PM
valleyrose17
UK(BS), 2 yrs
Yeah but c'mon - manual and manual with flash is pro or semi pro knowledge

tanken wrote:
I don't have the Nikon D5000 but when I use multiple flash of any variety (flashguns or studio lighting) I set all my cameras to manual, chose the shutter speed to either include or exclude ambient light and meter for the aperture :)

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26 Aug 11, 6:35 PM
pink_satin_sissy
2 yrs
I have a D700, which, I think, has a similar configuration and spec. The pop up flash on the D700 doesn't operate unless you choose to activate it with the button on the side of the pentaprism.

I just downloaded the D5000 manual and the camera will sync with off camera flash at up to 1/200th of a second.

Why not switch to manual settings. Select 1/200th of second shutter speed.

Set a low rated ASA, around 200. Then try a few test shot to find the right balance between your aperture and off camera flash power.

Hopefully, the D5000 on camera flash will be fully disengaged in manual settings.

28 Aug 11, 10:28 AM
Elle_in_France*
UK, 2 yrs
I spoke to a Nikon dealer yesterday, who told me that the D5000 is regarded as a high street camera rather than pro, and control of flash is consequently not in the spec.

Damn!!! I'll have to stick to available light photography.

Elle

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26 Sep 11, 3:44 PM
silver_lotus
UK(CB), 3 yrs

Elle_in_France wrote:
I cannot make it trigger flash regardless of it's own sensors. Which seem to be extremely inconsistent. I'm doing studio set-ips with a flash sender on the hot shoe talking to three flash heads, and five times out of ten, even in low lighting, it decides it will run a long exposure instead of firing the flash.

This applies to all settings that invoke flash.

I use a similar (Canon) set up with a flash controller and several remote flashguns. You might find the battery in the flash controller is running low, so it fires a few times and then stops :-) and it will do this several times, recovering after a few days and doing it again.

Alternatively, I've often found my 'misfires' were due to me being in the wrong relative position to one or more of the flashguns sensors, so the guns are not sensing the control from the controller (on my Canon flash each red flashing light has to have a clear line of sight to the controller). Sometimes the camera in portrait mode shields the controller as its then to one side, sometimes I just move to a bad relative position as I move around.

'More than just a few quick flashes!'

27 Sep 11, 11:28 PM
young_enthusiast86
UK(SN), 2 yrs

Elle_in_France wrote:
Bubbles_2 wrote:
Set the top rotating button to P rather than Auto. T hen if you do want flash, press the button on the side and the flash will pop up.

But only if the camera thinks it wants flash... I cannot make it trigger flash regardless of it's own sensors. Which seem to be extremely inconsistent. I'm doing studio set-ips with a flash sender on the hot shoe talking to three flash heads, and five times out of ten, even in low lighting, it decides it will run a long exposure instead of firing the flash.

This applies to all settings that invoke flash.

i'm with bubbles on this (using P,S, A or M), although i've only just started experimenting withmultiple flash guns... i have found that somtimes when cameras are set to defults in the menu, it stops some more complex options as the built in flash will be set to ttl causing it to ignore other flash units. There is an option in the custom menu settings that allows you to control the basic functions of multiple flash from the camera. This is the case on most, if not all modern Nikon dlsr's (well according to my flash unit manual)...

- click menu on camera - go down until you get to custom settings - (off the top of my head) go to to 'e' (the blue one) brktg & flash controls... - scroll down to the command mode (bottom option) and you should be able to select the control for multiple flash... - you can then set the flash units to manual, or ttl, or a combination and adjust the levels.

i may have misunderstood the question, but worth a try to see if it works, if not at least we tried :-)

Edited 28 Sep 11, 5:27 PM by young_enthusiast86

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