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| Lex_Magister |
All my maternal Aunts being born into an Irish catholic family underwent a faith based education at the end of which a number of them as expected entered a convent and later took their vows, two were sent out to Australia where they educated the native Aborigines.
Around twenty five years ago I had the great pleasure of meeting the then aged Aunts whilst on their ten year sabbatical home from Australia, knowing they wrote letters home a lot I had bought them pretty stationary sets as gifts, on presenting the gifts they explained that being little Sisters of the poor they were unable to keep them as they didn't accumulate any personal possessions but they would gift them to someone else.
I can say with all honesty that to this day I have yet to meet anyone who is as tranquil or as humanly beautiful as those two Ladies. I do wonder does the none acquisition of possessions or personal gratification remove the weight ownership brings.
Not wishing to disrespect the memory of my Aunts it has posed a question thought, were they the ultimate sub missives? Forgoing all human desires, devoting their lives to the one, Does practicing religion facilitate the submissive nature in an individual?
| 4 Aug 11, 4:22 PM Doghouse_Reilly UK(MK), 6 yrs  |
You could argue that a person who -must- have every new shiny bauble is a submissive to their material desires. There's definitely an inherent submission to service, whether as an employee or a religious minion or anything. I mean that's sort of the point. As to the tranquility of it, well there's a lot to be said for not chasing the Next Must Have Thing™. But it's not for everybody. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 4:29 PM condemned UK(M), 11 yrs |
Once you have a firm belief in life and how you should be living it,this eases all the tension and inner conflict people have who are unsure and does i believe lead to an inner peace and calm. If you add to that equation a life in the service of others,in selflessly helping other people,then a sense of spiritual well being will be added. Humans are animals after all.We merely need warmth,shelter,food and water to survive.By decluttering and simplifying our lives i believe we could all be happier. Edited 4 Aug 11, 4:36 PM by condemned | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 4:43 PM Lex_Magister UK(M), 7 yrs |
I see and agree with your point Mr Doghouse, but is the bauble chaser a true submissive or simply a self server?
As I type I reach out my hand, so as you read, you are then touched. | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 4:57 PM Lex_Magister UK(M), 7 yrs |
Thank you, you have explained it much clearer then me. I must say, other then domesticated animals; I've not seen many of the wild variety consuming Prozac... As I type I reach out my hand, so as you read, you are then touched. | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 5:11 PM AstronautMikeDexter UK(E), 2 yrs |
Cattle in East Asian war zones are known to have self-medicated by consuming opium poppies. | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 5:19 PM Lex_Magister UK(M), 7 yrs |
Really? Now that's well worth a Google.... I wonder if it could be the lack of good grazing? http://www.diethealthclub.com/health-food/poppy-.... I know horses as with other animals will seek out minerals and plants which aid them As I type I reach out my hand, so as you read, you are then touched. Edited 4 Aug 11, 5:52 PM by Lex_Magister | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 8:35 PM geoff917 UK(CO), 3 yrs |
This is a very interesting post, ....my own family background is v v similar and whilst only 1 of my maternal aunts became a nun, all of them were very gentle, warm, loving and wonderful people......perhaps it was part of an old fashioned Irish / Catholic trait, I dont know.....i would not begin to imagine if they were submissives (in fact some were v v strong in their marraiges!!)but I dont think that being warm gentle and serving others is necessarily either a religious or submissive trait..... "In order to finish first, you must first finish".....Roger Penske | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 9:14 PM Doghouse_Reilly UK(MK), 6 yrs |
But if helping others makes you happier than the pursuit of material wealth, doesn't that mean it is self serving too? It's a tricky subject because the quest for happiness is pretty much fundamental to the human condition. The two big schools of thought in pursuing happiness seem to be get what you can for yourself and nuts to everybody else, or devote yourself to others and find your happiness reflected in them. In recent years consumerism has become a very dominant philosophy, so the idea of loyal service to an ideal, a faith or society has faded. But like many things in life it is by no means a finalised position either way. I think consumerism is on the way out personally. There's bound to be a cultural backlash against the ultra-wealthy and bling culture as economies hit rock bottom. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 9:30 PM Lex_Magister UK(M), 7 yrs |
Then may I please ask what do you think motivates a person to practice there religion? As I type I reach out my hand, so as you read, you are then touched. | |||
| 4 Aug 11, 9:34 PM Lex_Magister UK(M), 7 yrs |
Gone to ponder your reply.... What Miss_OL wrote...
As I type I reach out my hand, so as you read, you are then touched. Edited 4 Aug 11, 11:35 PM by Lex_Magister |
