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Shamonu
Posted by Shamonu on Sun 31 Jul 11, 5:30 PM to Shamonu's blog.

I have a part time job and have just finished University, so now will pay council tax again. My earnings don't cover my bills, rent, food etc etc. So I applied for help, housing benefit and council tax while I look for a full time job and I was turned down.

After working and paying tax for 32 years, I get nothing from a system I've paid more than my fair share into. I have OCD which is severe but I've never used that to get benefits. I see others getting benefits who play the system, lie and grab all they can and get it.

It's the first time I've asked for help and I know of other friends who have worked all their adult lives who have also had similar experiences. So while others feed off me like leaches and could work, I'm bled dry and am in financial difficulty. I will get a job eventually but I got played and it really has pissed me off..

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31 Jul 11, 6:22 PM
dannigirl1
UK(CV), 2 yrs

Welcome to the crap world of the benefit system. I have been honest about living condtions ie with partner etc, but without going into too much detail because i have told them anything they wont help with any benefits that actually make a difference. I have been in tears on many occaisions through worrying about bills etc but unless you are an illegal immigrant and/or pregnant or lie through your teeth you dont get anything !!!! I am sorry to hear of your hassle and i hope you get all the help you deserve. xxxx And sorry if i sound bitter but i am...i am fed up with being screwed for being honest.
31 Jul 11, 7:17 PM
djin_bleu
UK(NW), 5 yrs


Shamonu wrote:
Play the system or get played

I have a part time job and have just finished University, so now will pay council tax again. My earnings don't cover my bills, rent, food etc etc. So I applied for help, housing benefit and council tax while I look for a full time job and I was turned down.

After working and paying tax for 32 years, I get nothing from a system I've paid more than my fair share into. I have OCD which is severe but I've never used that to get benefits. I see others getting benefits who play the system, lie and grab all they can and get it.

It's the first time I've asked for help and I know of other friends who have worked all their adult lives who have also had similar experiences. So while others feed off me like leaches and could work, I'm bled dry and am in financial difficulty. I will get a job eventually but I got played and it really has pissed me off..

Welcome to life, it sucks balls.

One thing you do have though and that's moral fibre, sure you will be broke and prob die from poverty whilst the lefties bleed the country dry to give it to poeple who never pay a frigging penny into the system BUT BY JOVE YOU WILL HAVE DONE IT THE RIGHT WAY! Don't let the bastards grind you down!!

*She who rides the Demon is afraid to dismount* ~* A hopeless dreamer she said, eyes of cloud and feet of lead *~

31 Jul 11, 7:25 PM
Shamonu
UK, 7 yrs

I know, I just want a little help while I get a job. I have a friend who was getting more from benefits than I was earning and I had a decent wage. She had child tax credits, housing benefit and other help that I wouldn't even know about asking for.

Another friend and I were exhausted from working and yet we took home less than she was getting. Her mother also helped tax and insure her car and that's on top of buying the car for her in the first place and she was 48, not a youngster.

Trouble is for many being on benefits makes them lazy and any sniff of hard work and they crumble, go sick or complain they're tired, boo hoo..

She's so pure, Moses could'nt even part her knees.....Joan Rivers on Marie Osmond.

31 Jul 11, 7:33 PM
simply_saffy
UK(HX), 19 mths

Not sure if you are already but you can claim working tax credits if you're only working part time, it may not amount to much but every little helps...

tel no: 0845 300 3900

31 Jul 11, 8:42 PM
Incandescence
UK, 3 yrs
His_saffy wrote:
Not sure if you are already but you can claim working tax credits if you're only working part time, it may not amount to much but every little helps...

tel no: 0845 300 3900

^^^^This, although I think there's a gap between the minimum hours you need to work to claim tax credits and the maximum you can work to claim income support. There certainly used to be, so unless they've sorted that out or you work more than 16 hours (I think that's what the threshold used to be for WTC) I woulnd't hold your breath for that either :(

In the beginning god created man ... that was his first mistake ... everybody knows the lady should always come first ;)
I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices ~ Mark Twaine

31 Jul 11, 9:20 PM
simply_saffy
UK(HX), 19 mths

You have to be working a minimum of 16 hours a week to claim working tax credits, i think the cut off point is 30 or above
31 Jul 11, 9:49 PM
jenevieve
UK(CH), 4 yrs
if you are single you have to be working 30h or above unless disabled. try the HMRC website.

Hope you can get it sorted.

No matter how you try you just can't fix stupid!

31 Jul 11, 9:57 PM
Adverse_Camber
UK, 3 yrs

His_saffy wrote:
You have to be working a minimum of 16 hours a week to claim working tax credits, i think the cut off point is 30 or above

Sux Shamonu, sorry! :(

As far as I know, you can claim WTC as long as you work over 16 hours a week, no maximum hour threshold. The govt have changed the earnings thresholds however, but if you are working more than 16 hours; but not full time, that shouldn't be a prob...unless you earning £150 per hour of course! :)

There is an excellent calculator on directgov.uk which asks all the questions about what you work, earn, own etc; then calculates exactly what you can claim.

This is also a great site, with loads of links: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/

Good luck, hope you get sorted soon. x

"I put my brave face on...so they won't know that I'm dead."

31 Jul 11, 10:39 PM
simply_saffy
UK(HX), 19 mths

jenevieve wrote:
if you are single you have to be working 30h or above unless disabled. try the HMRC website.

A woman i work with claims working tax credits, she is single with no children & works less than 30 hours...if you're disabled it's a totally different benefit.

1 Aug 11, 12:22 AM
Romola
UK, 7 yrs

dannigirl1 wrote:
unless you are an illegal immigrant and/or pregnant or lie through your teeth you dont get anything !!!!

While I understand you're bitter and there are loads of people taking the piss out of the benefits system and loads more unjustly denied stuff, you're wrong with the illegal immigrants thing. Unless you can prove you have leave to remain in the UK, you can not get benefits of any kind. If you have leave to remain, you may or may not be entitled to the same as UK born citizens, no more, no less.

Shamonu, I work with benefits and stuff, would you feel ok with sending me your hours, wages and rent, along with the district you live in?

It's only a weblog :-)

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