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| Thu 19 May 11, 7:10 PM freddie_867 UK(NN), 6 yrs  |
hi tonight c5 this film is on,any female subs like this?? | |
| 19 May 11, 7:18 PM PennieBlack UK(LU), 23 mths  |
... You know it's a documentary, right? As in, stuff that actually happened to someone? As in, someone who didn't consent to it? Stop asking me if I'm emo. | |
| 19 May 11, 7:26 PM freddie_867 UK(NN), 6 yrs |
oooooooh sorry u right i got my lines crossed,yea non-consent not good. | |
| 19 May 11, 7:34 PM PearlBlueSoul UK(EC), 2 yrs |
Infomercial Consent. | |
| 19 May 11, 7:45 PM miss_kitten UK(HA), 5 yrs |
It is quite a good documentary and you should read the book (Perfect Victim) if you haven't already. It is incredibly detailed, and yes, I'm afraid there are some parts that are terribly hot. Don't get me wrong, it was a shocking crime and the lady concerned is amazing and comes across as such a strong survivor. But one cannot help but see some of the methods and devices used through "our" eyes, and yes, some of them are hot. | |
| 20 May 11, 12:42 AM pinkylucy UK(M), 9 yrs     |
This is probably the only real life non-consensual situation that has held any kind of appeal for me when I watched the documentary. I found it hard not to imagine some of it being enacted within the framework of prior consent. I hope it goes without saying that the actual event was a hideous crime which I wish had never happened! Manchester's 9th International Women's SM Conference is on May 27th - 30th! Register now at www.smdykes.org.uk | |
| 20 May 11, 1:29 AM NewEnglishmanYork UK(ME), 13 mths |
I remember reading about this case. It both fascinated and appalled. Any sense of it 'being hot' is strictly fantasy, I hope. | |
| 20 May 11, 4:27 AM LillyMoon UK(NR), 6 yrs |
I am afraid I have always questioned just how non consensual this was...she was allowed to go jogging, to go home on a family visit, I believe she was even allowed to work (haven't watched it in a while). At no time did she run for help, or when at home with her family ask to stay and be saved. When he came for her after a visit home she smiled in photos with him, to all intents and purposes acting like his willing girlfriend. I am not saying that he didn't kidnap her, abuse her, or treat her appallingly. I just find it strange that given the opportunities she didn't escape. Please don't jump down my throat if your opinion differs from mine, I just can't understand it. LM | |
| 20 May 11, 6:48 AM othyim NL, 3 yrs |
To understand why she didnt attempt to escape, you might try reading bout the Stockholm syndrome than. Roughly, bout 27% of kidnap victims, in due time (and more when the kipnap situation is longitudinal) show at least some degrees of suffering from the Stockholm syndrome. In cases where Stockholm syndrome has occurred, the captive is in a situation where the captor has stripped nearly all forms of independence and gained control of the victim's life, as well as basic needs for survival. The victim then begins a struggle for survival, both relying on and identifying with the captor. In short, as a psychological survival mechanism, the captive judges it safer to align with the perpetrator, endure the hardship of captivity, and comply with the captor than to resist.
"Class is the impartial, consistent display of emotional integrity." Edited 20 May 11, 7:05 AM by othyim | |
| 20 May 11, 8:41 AM LillyMoon UK(NR), 6 yrs |
I do understand about Stockholm Syndrome and that is probably what was involved in this case. Although, doesn't it usually take time and "deprogramming" for a person to recover, rather than instantly. As I remember it as soon as his wife left the victim went to the police. I know that in difficult situations one can often rationalise anything...anyway as I said it was just something I couldn't understand. | |
| 20 May 11, 9:00 AM Tanos  UK(M), 14 yrs  |
He convinced her that there was a secret underground slave trading network across the US that he was part of. When she went for a jog, he'd said that the neighbour at the halfway point who always smiled was part of it and there to check on her; when he took her into a nearby city to pay his taxes, he told her he was visiting the network's local HQ and left her in the car; when he left her with her family, he told her that she, he and her family would all be killed if she breathed a word. He used an article about such a network in an alternative magazine to give weight to the idea. The article had a picture of a slave contract and then he produced an identical contract for her to sign after she'd been held captive for a few weeks. She was a very naive young woman and he managed to build a fear of this shadowy organisation to keep her. However, most of the time, she was physically confined, including all those years she spent locked in a box under his bed. The secret vengeful organisation sounds hard to believe. But you see women still terrified of people-trafficking gangs talking on documentaries in exactly the same way now. :T: www.tanos.org.uk Edited 20 May 11, 9:02 AM by Tanos |
