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12 May 11, 7:02 PM
Perplexion
13 mths
MissP wrote:
made2serve wrote:
Lastly I don't want my grandchildren being taught by a Pro Domme, a sub or a gay, and if they are i don't wan't that person influencing them sexually as they are all unnatural sexual perversions.

I have no idea what that biggoted idiot is doing on here, other than constantly whinging about pro dommes.

This time he has actually declared that none of our kinks are ok. Admin?

Edited 12 May 11, 7:03 PM by Perplexion

12 May 11, 7:05 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

MissP wrote:
made2serve wrote:
Lastly I don't want my grandchildren being taught by a Pro Domme, a sub or a gay, and if they are i don't wan't that person influencing them sexually as they are all unnatural sexual perversions.

I have no idea what that biggoted idiot is doing on here, other than constantly whinging about pro dommes.

Not just whinging about PDs, but being offensive towards every member of this board who presumably also have unnatural sexual perversions.

Homophobia too. Lovely.

Is he a Daily Fail reader in denial?

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness

12 May 11, 7:06 PM
Souci_X
UK(BA), 5 yrs

The post linked to is flawed in that if we don't want our children influenced then we would need robots to teach. I was aware of many of my teachers political views in school as well as moral views.
12 May 11, 7:07 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

morethancurious wrote:
The grey area is no doubt around the issue of charging for "sexual" services (by lawful definition - which as I'm not a lawyer I don't know) - which is in itself legally dubious at best and could therefore lead to a criminal conviction and affect your employment status regarding being in the care of others.

Jesus wept! How many more times do we have to repeat this?

SELLING SEXUAL SERVICES IS NOT ILLEGAL.

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness

12 May 11, 7:12 PM
Perplexion
13 mths
.... or dubiously so.
12 May 11, 7:20 PM
Ariane
8 yrs
People in jobs that deal directly with children or vulnerable adults are, unfortuantely, going to come up against judgementalism from the ignorant and are wise to keep their photos and identifying information off the Internet.

I tend to encourage subs to post pics etc and find unnecessary paranoia a turn-off, but the above reality is something that people in those positions are saddled with.

I work for education myself, but in an admin job away from students. I'm quite open at work, about both the bdsm and Paganism. If I were teaching the vulnerable adults among our students, it might get a less positive reaction.

We all make career choices. I hope the teacher can make a good living as a pro-domme. It has to pay better than teaching.

12 May 11, 7:49 PM
Nobby1
UK, 22 mths
Disciplinary offences depend on the nature of the job and potential to damage a company's reputation, so an employer would need to be satisfied that there there was a link between the damaging off-duty conduct and the nature of the employee's work.

An employee's private life cannot be governed by an employer - the right to a private life must be respected (and is upheld to some extent in law) provided it does not impact on the job.

Courts take a common sense approach to dealing with circumstances on a case-by-case basis, as in the example below.

In the 2003 case of Pay v Lancashire Probation Services, a probation officer was employed to deal with sex offenders. The employee sold bondage and sado-masochism products through a website and also performed in fetish clubs outside of work. When his activities came to light, he was dismissed.

The court took the common-sense approach and held the dismissal to be fair, as the nature of the employee's out of work activities had a direct impact on the job. Had the employee in this case been a clerk, then it is unlikely that his dismissal would have been fair.

12 May 11, 7:50 PM
Lj_switch
UK, 3 yrs


Lady_Anna_Bradford wrote:
MissP wrote:
made2serve wrote:
Lastly I don't want my grandchildren being taught by a Pro Domme, a sub or a gay, and if they are i don't wan't that person influencing them sexually as they are all unnatural sexual perversions.

I have no idea what that biggoted idiot is doing on here, other than constantly whinging about pro dommes.

Not just whinging about PDs, but being offensive towards every member of this board who presumably also have unnatural sexual perversions.

Homophobia too. Lovely.

Is he a Daily Fail reader in denial?

and I would not like my grandchildren taught by a religious fanatic of any faith...

the point being that anyone who has an influence over the development of a child should not thrust their own personal preferences upon children who have yet to develop the critical faculties that make them able to think for themselves, and make their own rational decisions about themselves, their faith, their beliefs or their sexuality.

But to return to the original question, we simply have to be realistic. The majority of the population think what we do IS perverted, many cannot make the distinction between consensual relationships and non-consensual (some here cannot either) and any of the enjoyable things we do to each other, and it is pointless saying they should. Yes, they should, but they don't.

So if you are in a job where your kink would cause your employer embarassment (yes, as trivial as that) or cause customers to go elsewhere, then it should come as no surprise if you are less than welcome if you flaunt your alternative sexuality.

The big word there is "flaunt". No-one should be pursued by the press, "friends" with a grudge etc for having an interesting sex-life, but if you turn up at work wearing a spiked collar, don't be surprised if your employer has a word or three to say. And if you work with children etc, advertising as a ProDomme does not show the best judgement.

This isn't a criticism of kink and those who pursue its many forms, just that we are a minority who are judged by a majority. Over time, acceptance will increase.

be a switch, double your fun :-)

12 May 11, 8:17 PM
ClassAct2005
UK(N), 7 yrs
It's not illegal to charge for sex. It is illegal to some other things relating to that I think - like soliciting in the street and I suppose hitting someone so hard you commit a criminal o ffence which the defence in the UK action tried to maintain Max M had done in his activities with the women concerned.

On the question of being public about your sexuality you have to take your own judgment on that. You may be a nothing now with not much of a job and nothing to lose but in 10 years' time you might be leading BP or you're David Laws and not want someoen to know you're gay or you might have 4 children u nder 10 and your husband is wanting evidence ot prize them away from you and all your puiblic BDSM might be great evidence for him to use in yhour unfitness as a mother. So you have to think ahead and as anyway there's no need to put pictures up to find people in my experience why bother to take the risk? If you think in fugure you will never have much of a job nor children nor woukld you be embarrassed if your family and neighbours knew your perversions then go ahead. Seems a massiev and pointless risk to me given you can pretty easily send someone a photo confidentially if you choose to but we all determine our own risk levels.

Perplexion wrote:
morethancurious wrote:

The grey area is no doubt around the issue of charging for "sexual" services (by lawful definition - which as I'm not a lawyer I don't know) - which is in itself legally dubious at best and could therefore lead to a criminal conviction

My work as a dominatrix is not legally dubious and could not lead to a criminal conviction. People who charge money to have sex are similarly no more legally dubious than anyone else running their own business.

12 May 11, 8:46 PM
proccie
UK(HP), 6 yrs


MissP wrote:
made2serve wrote:
Lastly I don't want my grandchildren being taught by a Pro Domme, a sub or a gay, and if they are i don't wan't that person influencing them sexually as they are all unnatural sexual perversions.

I have no idea what that biggoted idiot is doing on here, other than constantly whinging about pro dommes.

And I would not want my children taught by a bigot. I though twice about posting this, but then I read Maid's posts and decided it was fair to.

Perhaps being bigoted is his kink and I have just broken the AUP?

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