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Religion and relationships (45)

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17 May 11, 5:32 PM
OllieVW
3 yrs
lima_pink_tigress wrote:
DancesWithPussycats wrote:
Can't they agree to differ?

I sort of agree with this.

I think I would always (and have done in both LTR's I've been in) try to have, at the very least, a respect for my partner's beliefs. I might not fully understand how or why their beliefs are what they are, but I do realise that not everyone thinks like me.

Where I think I'd struggle would be being involved with someone who was devout, had particularly strong reliefs or perhaps even actively practiced a religion. I think that's slightly different to having a belief in god/some kind of divinity (I've only ever been involved with people who believed in god but werent' actually practicing).

For the most part though, I don't think it would/should affect my view of them ....if they started going all extreme on me, I'd be outta there faster than you could say 'rosary'!

I've found the replies on here very interesting and wonder if there are tiers/levels of dis-belief or whether some people are simply more willing to adapt to/attempt to understand/work with/ignore! the differneces where religion is concerned.

Believing is practising, the world is gods temple, i stopped going to Mass a long time ago but as you know my faith is strong.

You worship SHOES are a fanatic even manic, and I didnt complain ;)

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17 May 11, 8:32 PM
Romola
UK, 7 yrs

DancesWithPussycats wrote:
Yes, I don't have to agree 100% with my partner over everything, but its only when they start going all fundamental on my arse that I start to worry its a sign of deep psychological problems.

But the mortification of the flesh is so much fun! I'm not a believer but manage to get along with people from most faiths I can think of. I disliked the faith of a couple of people I met which seemed to be very fatalistic and disempowering. He is more adamantly atheistic than me, I think, but it's not a big deal.

It's only a weblog :-)

17 May 11, 9:07 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

I find I get on well with people who are open to reason and to insights from a wide variety of sources, and find it difficult to get on with people with closed minds and a belief in only a narrow range of insights into truth and reality. There are atheists and religious people in each category.

I think I'd struggle to maintain an LTR with a fundamentalist of either the religious or irreligious variety.

"Wisdom begins in wonder” (Socrates)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" (Albert Einstein)
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18 May 11, 9:28 AM
Incandescence
UK, 3 yrs
OllieVW wrote:

Believing is practising, the world is gods temple, i stopped going to Mass a long time ago but as you know my faith is strong.

That's very true. I suppose the 'practicing' I meant was this type of thing written by @othyim.

othyim wrote:
I dont mind cooking according to religious (kosher) rules, or respecting the ramadan (not eating, drinking or smoking in his sight during daytime) too.

Things that, by living to the letter of their religious beliefs, would affect my everyday life i.e. no sex outside of marraige would be a huge problem for me :-p. Not coveting my neighbour's arse wouldn't be so much of a problem because I've been promised @Danceswithpussycats neighbour :-D

But that's more the kind of thing I was getting at, things that would actually have an impact on me and how I live day to day.

OllieVW wrote:

You worship SHOES are a fanatic even manic, and I didnt complain ;)

=-o You'd better not ever complain about the 'sisterhood of Minolo'! I have deep faith in all of my shoes. I have faith in them to guide me and take me where I need to be, to care for and protect me ... well, to protect the soles of my feet from getting cold, dirty and cut ... the odd blister and twisted ankle are the crosses I must bear :-D

I think, therefor I fuck up!! :-$ Striving to better, oft we mar what's well. ~William Shakespeare, King Lear, 1605
Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without. ~Confucius, Analects

18 May 11, 12:04 PM
angelic_demon
UK(N), 2 yrs
lima_pink_tigress wrote:
Religion and relationships

(cut for brevity)

I realise the answer to this will probably vary depending very much on how deep a person's faith (or un-faith!) runs, as well as many other factors, but in general, is religion a big factor in the partner choosing process?

Short answer - no.

Longer answer, it depends. As another commenter said, it's all about respect - as long as everyone involved has sufficient respect for each other's beliefs, then it won't be a problem as long as there is nothing mutually incompatible between any two belief systems. One of my partners is Jewish, whereas I'm nominally Agnostic and we've been together for four(ish) years.

"Ouch" is NOT a safeword!

18 May 11, 2:32 PM
LadyMidnight
UK(CF), 4 yrs
In the past I've not given much thought to 'religion' in an LTR, I was of the live and let live persuasion. However, having had some unfortunate experiances with people who were disrespectful of my faith I have drawn a line in the sand as far as LTR's are concerned.

Whilst I'm happy to get on with people and celebrate our differances, when it comes to the people who share my life they do have to at least understand my faith. From past experiance it tends to destroy relationships when the other doesn't understand why I eat what I eat and when I eat it or where I buy things from or how I live my life; or worst of all they try to change the way I live my life. I am a practicing pagan and a deeply spritual person so for me the people who share my life would have to be spiritual at the very least. I do tolerate others and can maintain harmony with them, that's part of the way I live my life, but I find they are unable to offer me the same respect and that just leads to harmful, unproductive and unfulfilling relationships.

I'm quite happy to dish out a generous caning or flogging but I have no interest in emotional masochism.

xxx

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22 May 11, 2:10 AM
AnEnglishMaster
UK(ME), 5 yrs
It seems to me that many of the responses here could be summarised as "I am happy to tolerate a partner's religion - as long as they don't take it seriously". That is - it is OK for them to have some kind of vague "belief" - but, if that actually affects their attitudes to life, I don't want to know.

This puzzles me. IF God IS real, and has an interest and involvement in our everyday lives, and has a plan for us that goes beyond the years we spend on this Earth, and extends into eternity, then NOTHING can be more important.

That being the case, it would be bizarre if those who believe didn't bring a wholly different perspective to it, compared to those who think it is just one among many worthy approaches, or those who think NO such attitude has any merit at all.

I take my faith seriously - because I believe that Jesus offers the answers to the big questions of life. I consider that HE has come to show us God - and how we can know Him. I can't conceive of anything that could possibly be more crucial to us as human beings and individuals.

After all - IF God is real, and wants to enter into a relationship with us, NOTHING could possibly be more important.

English

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22 May 11, 12:20 PM
DancesWithPussycats
UK(TW), 7 yrs

DancesWithPussycats wrote:
... I don't have to agree 100% with my partner over everything, but its only when they start going all fundamental on my arse that I start to worry its a sign of deep psychological problems.

I have since read that religious mania or obsession is often linked to psychosis and bi-polar disorder. I suppose that in some milder cases it would be more like having a partner with OCD, or an alcoholic.

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Men are from Mars, women are from Hell

23 May 11, 4:05 PM
CookieMonster
UK, 6 yrs
DancesWithPussycats wrote:
DancesWithPussycats wrote:
... I don't have to agree 100% with my partner over everything, but its only when they start going all fundamental on my arse that I start to worry its a sign of deep psychological problems.

I have since read that religious mania or obsession is often linked to psychosis and bi-polar disorder. I suppose that in some milder cases it would be more like having a partner with OCD, or an alcoholic.

What would jesus drink?

23 May 11, 6:49 PM
proccie
UK(HP), 6 yrs


AnEnglishMaster wrote:
It seems to me that many of the responses here could be summarised as "I am happy to tolerate a partner's religion - as long as they don't take it seriously". That is - it is OK for them to have some kind of vague "belief" - but, if that actually affects their attitudes to life, I don't want to know.

This puzzles me. IF God IS real, and has an interest and involvement in our everyday lives, and has a plan for us that goes beyond the years we spend on this Earth, and extends into eternity, then NOTHING can be more important.

That being the case, it would be bizarre if those who believe didn't bring a wholly different perspective to it, compared to those who think it is just one among many worthy approaches, or those who think NO such attitude has any merit at all.

I take my faith seriously - because I believe that Jesus offers the answers to the big questions of life. I consider that HE has come to show us God - and how we can know Him. I can't conceive of anything that could possibly be more crucial to us as human beings and individuals.

After all - IF God is real, and wants to enter into a relationship with us, NOTHING could possibly be more important.

English

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