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Ms. Tytania banned, but...? (93)

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4 May 11, 11:57 AM
hollythedolly
UK(NN), 2 yrs


@thedavamp got to say I really didn't appreciate my comments in a weblog used to justify your defence of a friend it did read that being a bitch was part of a kink.

I'm usually a bitch to people because they have hurt me in someway. My play partner is not on ic what would be interesting to know is PC banned as he named your friend in a weblog from a private memo.

@admin has made a decision and to back track now he would have to do with the likes of other banned ICers which you have already claimed was downright nasty and yet some of us don't think was.

4 May 11, 12:33 PM
ThedaVamp
UK, 6 yrs
hollythedolly wrote:
@thedavamp got to say I really didn't appreciate my comments in a weblog used to justify your defence of a friend it did read that being a bitch was part of a kink.

I didn't name you. I didn't put a link to your blog. I didn't quote you. I didn't use information from a private memo.

You took it upon yourself to draw attention to it being you I referred to.

There are many diet-like dom/sub blogs here, not just yours.

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4 May 11, 12:39 PM
hollythedolly
UK(NN), 2 yrs


ThedaVamp wrote:
hollythedolly wrote:
@thedavamp got to say I really didn't appreciate my comments in a weblog used to justify your defence of a friend it did read that being a bitch was part of a kink.

I didn't name you. I didn't put a link to your blog. I didn't quote you. I didn't use information from a private memo.

You took it upon yourself to draw attention to it being you I referred to.

There are many diet-like dom/sub blogs here, not just yours.

yes there you are i chose to out myself on your weblog, your friend chose to out herself to admin.

Can you see now why admin took the action?

As i asked which no one seemed to answer was the person who decided to publish her memo banned or put on the naughty step.

4 May 11, 12:39 PM
lisal
9 yrs
hollythedolly wrote:

@admin has made a decision and to back track now he would have to do with the likes of other banned ICers which you have already claimed was downright nasty and yet some of us don't think was.

Well not really

If he felt, on reflection, that he had made an incorrect decision in a particular case he could reverse it without it having an impact on other bans

To be clear. I am talking generally here and not commenting on any specific instance

4 May 11, 12:51 PM
hollythedolly
UK(NN), 2 yrs


lisal wrote:
hollythedolly wrote:

@admin has made a decision and to back track now he would have to do with the likes of other banned ICers which you have already claimed was downright nasty and yet some of us don't think was.

Well not really

If he felt, on reflection, that he had made an incorrect decision in a particular case he could reverse it without it having an impact on other bans

To be clear. I am talking generally here and not commenting on any specific instance

Yes they could, and it will be interesting to see if they do it.

After they have defended their postition several times

4 May 11, 12:52 PM
Clodmin
UK(OX), 3 yrs

It seems to me that Admin is missing out some very important points while he tries to spin this personal vendetta to look like business as usual.

In the interest of full disclosure:

Admin wrote:
The target of those "Fred Dibnah" comments last year did not in any way consent to her making those remarks and deeply resented them.

The 'target' of this horrific campaign of bullying was actually Admin himself. Just in case anyone was wondering why she's the only person to be banned for moderately rude comments.

MsT also considers herself a working class northerner from an industrial region, a fact that any level-headed Admin might easily have construed from the words he himself quotes (in bold):

Admin wrote:
She admitted by memo that these were deliberately "bitchy" comments aimed at a specific member of IC, who is from somewhere far north of London: "It's like the Fred Dibnah of kink", "a fetish suitable for us the working classes (preferably Northern)" who are "far too used to seeing similar symbols around industrial estates and factories?"

I also don't see any personally-aimed language there- looks quite broad to me.

Nonetheless, pretty harsh words, there. That 'bullying' took place a year ago, so it must have left some serious mental scars inside that poor yellow head. Anyway, even if it was meant as a joke, it's not excusable as a joke, because bullies also use jokes:

Admin wrote:
"Can't they take a joke?" is always the excuse of the bully and their hangers-on.

Ergo, joking = bullying. Apparently.

So that's why he doesn't like her. But what was the final straw? Well, apparently it was MsT's statement that she knew she was being bitchy, and that she intended to keep on being bitchy:

Admin wrote:
She was just being nasty for her own amusement. She admitted she knew she was being bitchy at him and declared that she would continue for as long as it had that effect.

Since we're quoting private memos here, I presume it's okay for me to do the same? Otherwise it seems a little one-sided.

If you have a root around in Admin's private memos, you'll find that the exchange goes a little more like this:

Admin wrote:
Why don't you have the dignity to leave rather than making these bitchy little jibes?

The inimitable Ms_Tytania wrote:
I'll stay here for a s long as it bothers you as much as it appears to do.

Ms T.

So, she didn't say she would keep being bitchy, just that she would stay, to annoy him. Hmm...

So he's distorted her words to fit his purpose, it would seem.

I remember an old buddy of mine getting his panties in a twist over someone doing something similar, earlier in this very thread:

Admin wrote:
Don't distort how that post was used in my reply.

Hmm... it just really feels like the decision to ban Ms_Tytania was made first and then the evidence to support it was garnered after the fact. like a private agenda. Very similar to the Iraq war, actually. I'm not saying there's a link, but you've got to admit, he does bear a passing resemblance to Gordon Brown.

Anyway, this is a private site. Don't be surprised if the owner does what he wants with it. She got kicked off because he wanted to kick her off, and the same thing will probably happen to me in a moment.

If it was my site, I'd probably kick tons of people off it if they annoyed me or bullied me mercilessly with comparisons to an eccentric northern steeplejack.

But I hope that I would at least have the balls to admit that was what I was doing, and not spin it so it looked like I'm protecting someone else.

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4 May 11, 1:35 PM
Admin
UK, 14 yrs
Clodmin wrote:
If it was my site, I'd probably kick tons of people off it if they annoyed me or bullied me mercilessly with comparisons to an eccentric northern steeplejack.

But I hope that I would at least have the balls to admit that was what I was doing, and not spin it so it looked like I'm protecting someone else.

Whereas what happens on IC is that people are allowed to carry on being "bitchy" as she admitted (you didn't quote that comment of hers) until they actually break part of the AUP, as she did with the YKINOK comments. That's where they've crossed the line. It's exactly the same principle as was followed with Delphian and Platinum_Man.

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4 May 11, 1:48 PM
P_r_a_x_i_s
UK, 2 yrs
£
1. I don't know enough about the history of this debate to comment on whom should be banned from IC and for what reasons.

2. But, from what I've read, there are loads of people posting on IC for the sole purpose of being abusive to others and with apparently no intention of reforming their behaviour.

3. I do not want to be held guilty by association, for simply sharing a film I helped produce.

4. I am a genuine working-class person.

5. Vote for for the AV/STV tomorrow!

"Nothing is true: everything is permitted."

4 May 11, 1:58 PM
P_r_a_x_i_s
UK, 2 yrs
£
I've been locked out of replying to my own post which had the video that started all of this.

"Nothing is true: everything is permitted."

4 May 11, 5:24 PM
Lady_Anna_Bradford
UK(BD), 5 yrs

P_r_a_x_i_s wrote:
I've been locked out of replying to my own post which had the video that started all of this.

You mean the video that has now been banned because someone reported it?

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness

Edited 4 May 11, 5:25 PM by Lady_Anna_Bradford

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