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Sun 1 May 11, 10:40 AM
MsSlide
UK(RH), 12 yrs
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Facebook mods have deleted Club Pedestal, along with Derek's own profile, despite there being no nudity or sexual content. The Erotic Review is also gone. I notice that IC is also missing - is this a recent thing? Did IC admin delete the IC Facebook group/page themselves, or was this something carried out by FB mods?

In the past few days, a large number of politically subversive groups, pages and links have been purged by Facebook's censors, and I'd like to know if this includes sexually subversive content. If possible, I'd like a list of anything else that FB has kicked in the past week.

(edit) Erotic Review's page was gone, but is now back up. So far, 32 people "like" it.

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Edited Sun 1 May 11, 10:50 AM by MsSlide

1 May 11, 10:51 AM
ThatAnanke
UK(NG), 13 mths
I saw that too, tbere is more information on this link:

http://blog.ucloccupation.com/2011/04/29/over-50...

You could also try:

https://www.facebook.com/a.revolt.digital.anarchy

They are on FB and seem to keep up to date with what is what. x

1 May 11, 11:23 AM
ladybabe2
UK(SK), 6 yrs

OMG since when has it been an offence in this country to speak out against what you believe is wrong? How can groups who are fighting government cuts and trying to save the health service be classed as subversive? Ok have restricted content or age verifaction to protect the children but to take them down now that is subversive stopping people from practising "their right to free speech" which as the founders of face-book are American they should be up-holding there own constitution smacks of government involvement considering which groups seem to be affected

Don't make them a priority, when they only make you an option...

1 May 11, 11:26 AM
Eclipso
UK(LS), 13 mths
ladybabe2 wrote:
OMG since when has it been an offence in this country to speak out against what you believe is wrong? How can groups who are fighting government cuts and trying to save the health service be classed as subversive? Ok have restricted content or age verifaction to protect the children but to take them down now that is subversive stopping people from practising "their right to free speech" which as the founders of face-book are American they should be up-holding there own constitution smacks of government involvement considering which groups seem to be affected

Facebook isn't part of the UK. It's an internet site.

If you've become so attached to Facebook that you've forgotten it's just a website run by some guy who's pretty much a dick, then maybe it's for the best that you're forced to find a better, more socially significant medium for your rebellion.

Addendum: I also think it would violate the U.S. constitution for Facebook to not be able to decide what does and does not carry on within its systems. If they don't want political groups on there, then I don't really think anyone has a right to force them, a social media site for people to post pictures of their pets and underpants, to have to act as a staging ground for people's social movements.

Edited 1 May 11, 11:34 AM by Eclipso

1 May 11, 11:32 AM
mq1965
UK(DA), 8 yrs
Eclipso wrote:
ladybabe2 wrote:
OMG since when has it been an offence in this country to speak out against what you believe is wrong? How can groups who are fighting government cuts and trying to save the health service be classed as subversive? Ok have restricted content or age verifaction to protect the children but to take them down now that is subversive stopping people from practising "their right to free speech" which as the founders of face-book are American they should be up-holding there own constitution smacks of government involvement considering which groups seem to be affected

Facebook isn't part of the UK. It's an internet site.

Its also a private site providing a free service. It surprises me really that protest groups of an apparently anarchist or socialist bent seem to be so reliant on a very capitalist organisation like Facebook.

Ultimately, just like IC, Facebook can do exactly what it wants with its site and your use of it as long as it doesn't charge you for it. If the owners don't like a certain type of politics, rightly on wrongly, there is no reason why they should host it for free. And given that a lot of their money probably comes from corporate sources it isn't very surprising if they don't like these types of groups.

Not saying I agree with them, just that I am not at all surprised. Might be much more relevant to keep this thread focussed on what they are doing with regard to adult/BDSM themed groups, rather than political groups.

1 May 11, 11:34 AM
valleyrose17
UK(BS), 2 yrs
Hmmm a very wealthy Dick - oh actually didnt he just sell? Thing is it isnt publicly owned so they have the right to decide what goes up and dont forget some Americans can be much more moralistic and extreme in their religious views (please don't jump on me I said SOME)

Eclipso wrote:
ladybabe2 wrote:
OMG since when has it been an offence in this country to speak out against what you believe is wrong? How can groups who are fighting government cuts and trying to save the health service be classed as subversive? Ok have restricted content or age verifaction to protect the children but to take them down now that is subversive stopping people from practising "their right to free speech" which as the founders of face-book are American they should be up-holding there own constitution smacks of government involvement considering which groups seem to be affected

Facebook isn't part of the UK. It's an internet site.

If you've become so attached to Facebook that you've forgotten it's just a website run by some guy who's pretty much a dick, then maybe it's for the best that you're forced to find a better, more socially significant medium for your rebellion.

1 May 11, 11:35 AM
Eclipso
UK(LS), 13 mths
mq1965 wrote:
Its also a private site providing a free service. It surprises me really that protest groups of an apparently anarchist or socialist bent seem to be so reliant on a very capitalist organisation like Facebook.

Could not agree more.

1 May 11, 11:37 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Eclipso wrote:
... Addendum: I also think it would violate the U.S. constitution for Facebook to not be able to decide what does and does not carry on within its systems. If they don't want political groups on there, then I don't really think anyone has a right to force them, a social media site for people to post pictures of their pets and underpants, to have to act as a staging ground for people's social movements.

The problem is that they seem to have been selective though; they haven't got rid of all political groups, only a selection of left wing ones. And they haven't published any explanation for such selective censorship.

"Wisdom begins in wonder” (Socrates)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" (Albert Einstein)
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

1 May 11, 11:39 AM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

Eclipso wrote:
mq1965 wrote:
Its also a private site providing a free service. It surprises me really that protest groups of an apparently anarchist or socialist bent seem to be so reliant on a very capitalist organisation like Facebook.

Could not agree more.

Unfortunately, as society is currently organised, a lot of power, including the ownership of communications media, is in the hands of capitalist organisations. Even BT is no longer publicly owned.

"Wisdom begins in wonder” (Socrates)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" (Albert Einstein)
Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est. http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/226772/

1 May 11, 11:40 AM
Eclipso
UK(LS), 13 mths
valleyrose17 wrote:
Hmmm a very wealthy Dick - oh actually didnt he just sell? Thing is it isnt publicly owned so they have the right to decide what goes up and dont forget some Americans can be much more moralistic and extreme in their religious views (please don't jump on me I said SOME)

No. It's not publicly owned. When you buy an apple it doesn't become property of everyone in the county does it? It's owned by various companies and corporations none of which are public bodies.

And what are you saying? We can't let people choose how to run their own business in case they're a religious lunatic? I hate to break it to you but if all of Facebook's stakeholders decided that, instead of a social media site, Facebook should just redirect to a huge picture of Jesus dancing with some lambs then that's what Facebook would be, and nothing you or anyone else could say woul change that because it's not your bloody site.

1 May 11, 11:45 AM
Eclipso
UK(LS), 13 mths
wonderer wrote:

Unfortunately, as society is currently organised, a lot of power, including the ownership of communications media, is in the hands of capitalist organisations. Even BT is no longer publicly owned.

What point are you making? "Stuff is owned by companies". Yeah, it is, find me a person who has tens of millions of pounds of capital passing through their hands each week, has knowledge of every single type of thing that needs to be known in their entire subject area (so, for instance, a computer expert who knows everything from how to build silicon chips, mine the silicone, smelt the ore for the computer cases, build the specialised transportation, put the glass in its windshields, construct the premises, write contracts and fight legal cases, program the machines themselves, write the operating system, build the production line and write the software for all the robots on it as well as single handedly deal with the entire world's logistics) and I'll agree that this guy doesn't need a company because he can do it himself, and I will concede that this point has some sort of significance.

Otherwise...wat?

Edited 1 May 11, 11:46 AM by Eclipso

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