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| Mon 18 Apr 11, 11:24 AM keithunder UK(M), 10 yrs   |
The anti BDSM anti prostitution make up stats group the Poppy Trust has lost it's government funding The whining starts here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/apr/17/pr... Comments are allowed | ||
| 18 Apr 11, 11:30 AM Skittles UK(NW), 19 mths |
The poppy trust is a pile of wank. I don't know if the funding going to the salvation army is much of an improvement though. | ||
| 18 Apr 11, 11:31 AM BARNET_BASTILLE  UK(EN), 3 yrs |
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| 18 Apr 11, 11:38 AM bohnanza UK(FK), 12 yrs |
I have looked at all their press releases and cannot find where they announced they were anti BDSM. Could you supply a link to their views on it? Rohypnol means never having to say "Would you like another coffee?". | ||
| 18 Apr 11, 11:47 AM Barbahella UK(W), 8 yrs |
Hmmm, I am not sure anyone should be celebrating the loss of funding to a group that helps sex-trafficked and abused women. I too would like to see some further information to back up the OP's claim that they are anti-BDSM... In any case, (whilst I would prefer tolerance and understanding for all), I do not have a requirement that this kind of charity be pro-BDSM before I will consider it to be doing any good.
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| 18 Apr 11, 12:07 PM Tanos UK(M), 14 yrs   |
The Poppy Project wants to criminalise possession of any form of pornography showing naked women, any form BDSM pornography showing women as subs/bottoms, and probably pornography showing the "hostile to women" missionary position. They made this clear by endorsing the Lilith Project's reponse to the "Extreme Pornography" consultation:
http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/lilith.html ie they are anti-sex radical feminist nutjobs, using trafficked women to advance their political goals. Taxpayers' money shouldn't be given to people with agendas like that. It should be given to organisations who want to help trafficked women. :T: | ||
| 18 Apr 11, 12:14 PM Skittles UK(NW), 19 mths |
I think their methods for doing that are pretty questionable (They refuse to provide any help or support until a prostitute agree to give up sex work forever and turn in their traffickers/Pimp) Plus the whole sex trafficking figures are as exaggerated as Gary Busey's face. | ||
| 18 Apr 11, 12:15 PM LadyLouella UK(W), 2 yrs £ |
The poppy trust is not "anti-BDSM". They are anti the trafficking of women, girls and boys, forced into sexual slavery. Some horrific cases include a girl aged 7 from an African country, along with another girl aged 9, shut up in a small room, and their bodies sold for around 20 pounds an hour, for which the adult pimping them kept. Ghastly stuff. I personally know one of the people associated with the poppy trust, and can say first-hand that he is certainly not anti-BDSM. Wink. Human rights law and BDSM should not be at odds. Human rights supports freedom of sexual expression and orientation. There is a big difference between Domination / submission between two consenting adults and equals, compared to the trafficking of children and women across countries to be raped and abused.
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| 18 Apr 11, 12:27 PM keithunder UK(M), 10 yrs |
Well they seem to want to put us in prison from what I can gather from their response to the governments consultation. I am not against the work they do to help trafficked women obviously. It is the fake statistics they use and the nasty authoritarian views of their leaders which I object to.
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| 18 Apr 11, 12:31 PM emark UK, 9 yrs |
Yes, I'm sure they are anti-lots of things that are good to be anti- about, but that doesn't mean we have to agree or excuse them on everything else.
If this is money being cut from such charities in general, then one can argue that's a bad thing - but the article says the money went elsewhere instead. Sign the Consenting Adult Action Network's statement Edited 18 Apr 11, 12:36 PM by emark | ||
| 18 Apr 11, 12:41 PM verte UK(E), 8 yrs |
The money that went to the Poppy Project was always absolutely dependent upon their meeting protectionist government aims, including particular interventions that government made to impose specific conditions over which women were liable for unconditional support to begin with. This had far more to do with a moral panic over trafficking and appeasing Daily Mail readers than any feminist agenda. The rad fems, as usual, just jumped on the band wagon. You see this pattern repeat itself every time a moral panic arises over sexuality.
Railing against the tyranny of 'common sense'. Edited 18 Apr 11, 2:16 PM by verte |
