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'S' or 's'? (52)

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Sun 10 Apr 11, 12:49 AM
venus_flames
UK(WR), 5 yrs
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Hi,

Sorry if this is a little obvious or showing my total lack of knowledge, but recently I got in debate on a forum with reference to the 's' for 'submissive'.

My stance was that the 's' is not given a capital due to the role that it represents, whereas my opposition in the debate says that it should have a capital as we are all equal in our roles.

Are we both right or both wrong or does one of us have a more valid point than the other?

It would be good to hear your thoughts, as I admit where I started the debate with confidence, I am starting to doubt myself.

Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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10 Apr 11, 1:02 AM
Ianneil
UK(N), 5 yrs

venus_flames wrote:
'S' or 's'?

Hi,

Sorry if this is a little obvious or showing my total lack of knowledge, but recently I got in debate on a forum with reference to the 's' for 'submissive'.

My stance was that the 's' is not given a capital due to the role that it represents, whereas my opposition in the debate says that it should have a capital as we are all equal in our roles.

Are we both right or both wrong or does one of us have a more valid point than the other?

It would be good to hear your thoughts, as I admit where I started the debate with confidence, I am starting to doubt myself.

Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.

So if you decide that it should be s then how would you start a sentence with submissive without using a capital?

10 Apr 11, 1:12 AM
epona74
UK(SL), 7 yrs
Some people consider that submissives should use lower-case letters to signify their submissive nature, where dominants would have capitals regardless of whether it's appropriate grammatically (think Me/Mine etc).

Some people don't, and stick to grammatical accuracy instead.

It's all good...just different ways of seeing things.

Personally, I prefer grammar, but I can sort of understand the concept behind the other take on things :)

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10 Apr 11, 1:14 AM
chrismanch*
UK(M), 11 yrs
I can't stand it when someone uses terms like "Hello A/all" or "H/he", "S/she" etc.

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10 Apr 11, 1:16 AM
venus_flames
UK(WR), 5 yrs
£
epona74 wrote:
Some people consider that submissives should use lower-case letters to signify their submissive nature, where dominants would have capitals regardless of whether it's appropriate grammatically (think Me/Mine etc).

Some people don't, and stick to grammatical accuracy instead.

It's all good...just different ways of seeing things.

Personally, I prefer grammar, but I can sort of understand the concept behind the other take on things :)

Hmmm... I think that take kind of works for me. I have to admit that I had no knowledge or understanding at all before discovering IC and seeing as my degree is in English, then for me it was quite a weird feeling seeing the 's' being used continually without a capital, when it would have naturally had one, but I guess I just accepted it.

So... the answer is that we are both right?

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10 Apr 11, 1:23 AM
yoda_dog
UK(HP), 6 yrs

venus_flames wrote:
epona74 wrote:
Some people consider that submissives should use lower-case letters to signify their submissive nature, where dominants would have capitals regardless of whether it's appropriate grammatically (think Me/Mine etc).

Some people don't, and stick to grammatical accuracy instead.

It's all good...just different ways of seeing things.

Personally, I prefer grammar, but I can sort of understand the concept behind the other take on things :)

Hmmm... I think that take kind of works for me. I have to admit that I had no knowledge or understanding at all before discovering IC and seeing as my degree is in English, then for me it was quite a weird feeling seeing the 's' being used continually without a capital, when it would have naturally had one, but I guess I just accepted it.

So... the answer is that we are both right?

The answer is that there isn't a right or wrong, just preferences :-D

"Bottom line: it's couples who are truly right for each other wade through the same crap as everybody else, but the big difference is they don't let it take them down. One of those two people will stand up and fight for that relationship every time."

10 Apr 11, 1:32 AM
Cassius
UK, 3 yrs

I really do not need to have my ego boosted by capitalising possessive adjectives or pronouns. If some people feel that this is for them,I do not comment. Conventionally,up to the mid-19th Century,this was often done in connection with God! My sub. has her name used, in courtesy,capitalised ; she is my lady as well, not a thing. The perpendicular personal pronoun is generally thus unless she is feeling particularly submissive. When other subs. use the lower case "i" when writing of themselves to me I take it as a graceful compliment. The expressions Ds and Mf are handy abbreviations and tell a paragraph. As to male/female references,I tend to use s/he,although it should be remembered that "man"or "Man" used generically is actually short for "humanity" or "humankind". On that,Barmy Brent once banned the word "management" because it contained the letters "m-a-n" within it,being ignorant of the derivation from "menage",French for "household",which is of course generally run by the ladies.....but I digress:back to the O.P. now.

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10 Apr 11, 1:40 AM
DominantMind
UK(N), 15 mths

Cassius wrote:
I really do not need to have my ego boosted by capitalising possessive adjectives or pronouns. If some people feel that this is for them,I do not comment. Conventionally,up to the mid-19th Century,this was often done in connection with God! My sub. has her name used, in courtesy,capitalised ; she is my lady as well, not a thing. The perpendicular personal pronoun is generally thus unless she is feeling particularly submissive. When other subs. use the lower case "i" when writing of themselves to me I take it as a graceful compliment. The expressions Ds and Mf are handy abbreviations and tell a paragraph. As to male/female references,I tend to use s/he,although it should be remembered that "man"or "Man" used generically is actually short for "humanity" or "humankind". On that,Barmy Brent once banned the word "management" because it contained the letters "m-a-n" within it,being ignorant of the derivation from "menage",French for "household",which is of course generally run by the ladies.....but I digress:back to the O.P. now.

How do you feel about paragraphs though?

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10 Apr 11, 1:45 AM
venus_flames
UK(WR), 5 yrs
£
DominantMind wrote:
Cassius wrote:
I really do not need to have my ego boosted by capitalising possessive adjectives or pronouns. If some people feel that this is for them,I do not comment. Conventionally,up to the mid-19th Century,this was often done in connection with God! My sub. has her name used, in courtesy,capitalised ; she is my lady as well, not a thing. The perpendicular personal pronoun is generally thus unless she is feeling particularly submissive. When other subs. use the lower case "i" when writing of themselves to me I take it as a graceful compliment. The expressions Ds and Mf are handy abbreviations and tell a paragraph. As to male/female references,I tend to use s/he,although it should be remembered that "man"or "Man" used generically is actually short for "humanity" or "humankind". On that,Barmy Brent once banned the word "management" because it contained the letters "m-a-n" within it,being ignorant of the derivation from "menage",French for "household",which is of course generally run by the ladies.....but I digress:back to the O.P. now.

How do you feel about paragraphs though?

Sarcy! lol

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10 Apr 11, 2:29 AM
kinkyclover
UK(NG), 4 yrs

I prefer to give both roles lower case if mid sentence, but often get into the habit of capitalising Dom/me as I was told to do that by a previous mentor.

Often though people will capitalise dominant roles and have lower case letters for submissive roles.

Hope this helps.

Edited to correct typo

Its not begging....Its saying please very politely :-p Its not bratty...its colourful :-D

Edited 11 Apr 11, 1:51 PM by kinkyclover

10 Apr 11, 2:36 AM
yoda_dog
UK(HP), 6 yrs

kinkyclover wrote:
I prefer to give both roles lower case if mid sentence, but often get into the habit of capitalising Dom/me as I was told to do that by a previous mentor.

Often though people will capitalise dominant roles and have lover case letters for submissive roles.

Hope this helps.

My bold...interesting typo or interesting point?

"Bottom line: it's couples who are truly right for each other wade through the same crap as everybody else, but the big difference is they don't let it take them down. One of those two people will stand up and fight for that relationship every time."

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