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on Mon 4 Apr 11, 9:39 PM to Ima_Kant's blog.
Just received the following email about climate change:
Are you sitting down?
Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland, since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet, all of you.
Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress, that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow, and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans, and all animal life.
I know, it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cents light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs...well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the tubes in just four days.
The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud any one time - EVERY DAY.
I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire YEARS on earth. Yes folks, Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year, think about it.
Of course I shouldn't spoil this touchy-feely tree-hugging moment and mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keep happening, despite our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.
And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud but the fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.
Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping carbon tax on you on the basis of the bogus ''human-caused'' climate change scenario.
Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention ''Global Warming'' any more, but just ''Climate Change'' - you know why? It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.
And just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme (that whopping new tax)
imposed on you, that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.
But hey, relax, give the world a hug and have a nice day!
PS: I wonder if Iceland is buying carbon offsets?
Edited Mon 4 Apr 11, 9:40 PM by Ima_Kant
| 4 Apr 11, 9:50 PM MissKimberley NL, 8 yrs    |
Science has actually linked global warming to the melting of the poles and as such temperatures have decreased. In any case, the main thing would be to ensure we don't fuck up our planet. CO2 is only a minor concern in the grand scheme of things; we are consuming more and putting back less. We're using more than we need. “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act” - George Orwell | ||
| 4 Apr 11, 9:58 PM geoff917 UK(CO), 3 yrs |
Certainly food for thought, young Jules!!! "In order to finish first, you must first finish".....Roger Penske | ||
| 4 Apr 11, 10:07 PM bohnanza UK(FK), 12 yrs |
I suppose you have checked it out to see if it is true. If not give me your e-mail address I am going to send you an e-mail which will get you a 20% share of 117 million dollars squirrelled away by General Abache and I promise I won't empty your bank account. Rohypnol means never having to say "Would you like another coffee?". | ||
| 5 Apr 11, 10:38 AM snarkysub UK(E), 7 yrs |
Riiiiiiiight. Because 97% of ALL international climate scientists from independent scientific research organizations all over the planet are ALL wrong. Even most of the 3% of those who don't believe climate change is man made acknowledge that the earth is warming (they just don't believe it's caused by man). FYI- the earth always emitted carbon before, it just used to be in balance. Since man started releasing what was stored in fossil fuels, we upset the natural balance. So when you talk about natural occurrences, you are talking about the earth without man's mucking about. Everything we've done on top of that, is sending it way off kilter. If you were really interested in the subject, you'd read the science, which is all readily available on this here thing they call the internet, instead of spreading unscientific non-validated fear mongering. If you wanted some good factual links to read, I'd be happy to send them to you. -K ...everything worth knowing leaves bruises... | ||
| 5 Apr 11, 2:38 PM Ima_Kant UK(PO), 3 yrs |
If there was any truth in Global Warming then why did Gordon Brown travel everywhere by chartered jet planes which pump CO2 into the atmosphere by the ton? Why don't all the people who go on about it give up their cars? Why don't all the people who go on about it (to look morally superior) stop holidaying abroad then? Why don't all the people who go on about it stop smoking then? Note: I don't own a car, I don't smoke, I don't fly. | ||
| 5 Apr 11, 2:51 PM snarkysub UK(E), 7 yrs |
Lord help me, I know this isn't worth it..... Because people often don't do what they should do, because we don't live in a society that makes it easy to *live* if you make the choices you need to make to reduce your emissions enough. Because we still heavily subsidize fossil fuels. Why? Because of people like you actually. We don't live in dictatorships, and to cut emissions properly will be hugely unpopular as it will have significant lifestyle and national consequences. HOWEVER. Does that mean it isn't happening? No... it just means people are people. Again, if you are interested in ACTUAL science going on, then let me point you towards numerous studies on the difficulties of cultural behavior change and what the problems with trying to get people to respond in a way that they will find acceptable and that will also reduce emissions are. And yes, good point, for similar types of arguments, look to similar behavior change related problems like smoking, drinking, obesity... here's a more useful example to understand why the way you made your argument is ridiculous: Why doesn't every one just get slim then if it's a real problem? Clearly that means obesity isn't actually a real health problem! Uh... right. Cheers- K ...everything worth knowing leaves bruises... | ||
| 5 Apr 11, 4:34 PM Ima_Kant UK(PO), 3 yrs |
Sooooo saying you believe in global warming yet making no attempt to do anything about it is fine Yet Someone like me who doesn't believe in it but nevertheless acts in a way to moderate it is ridiculous. Don't do as I do... do as I say. I just love hypocrisy... can't wait for the next Labour government!!!!
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| 5 Apr 11, 5:13 PM snarkysub UK(E), 7 yrs |
Who says it's fine not to act? And why do you confuse behavior in response to an action with the action itself? Your post wasn't about behavior response to climate change, it was about whether or not climate change was actually happening or not and basic concepts of climate science. You then sidetracked your own post by suggesting that just because some people don't respond to it the way YOU think they should, it must mean it's not true which I think was clearly disproved by showing how a similar argument against obesity doesn't add up. Now you're off on another tangent, as if all this faffing about how people behave or respond has anything to do with science- you've hijacked your own post! At any rate, to avoid further faffing, please start by reading this: http://www.withouthotair.com/ Then you could read this: http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/what_we_do... But seeing as you're UK political phobic (even though DECC has successfully crossed party lines and is fully supported by the Conservatives) then you could get stuck in with this: http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/publica... Then you might want to watch all of this: http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/ Now after you're read and watched all that, then by all means, come back with some scientific basis for your claims. I'd be happy to debate it with you further, then. Cheers- K ...everything worth knowing leaves bruises... | ||
| 5 Apr 11, 6:17 PM SquireRaglan UK(SW), 6 yrs |
Actually, it's really simple. All that's needed is to recognise that governments are stewards of certain 'property rights' - including the right to emit CO2 into the atmosphere - and that as a steward, the charges made for granting that right belong to the beneficiaries of the stewardship ie the population at large. So, instead of simply taxing CO2 emissions (how can that ever be popular?), the government announces that the proceeds of charging for CO2 emissions will be divided up and everyone over 18 will get an annual cheque for their share. Issued, let's say, just before Christmas - that should make it popular. Maybe cashpoint cards could be issued to those who want their share weekly. Those complaining about the increased cost of petrol, fuel, and whatever, will meet a wall of indifference from the population at large pumping up its cycle tyres and donning extras jumpers while turning down the central heating, salivating at the thought of the pre-Christmas divi-up enhanced by fellow citizens' carbon profligacy. Once the principle is established and operative, there will probably be more push from the population for higher carbon-emission charges (= higher pre-Christmas share-outs) than there is pressure for lower charges from the diehards.
... Edited 5 Apr 11, 6:18 PM by SquireRaglan | ||
| 5 Apr 11, 9:09 PM Ima_Kant UK(PO), 3 yrs |
Good one!!!
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