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My baby 'Turkish' has epilepsy. (11)

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Baby_Girl
Posted by Baby_Girl on Mon 7 Feb 11, 6:50 PM to Baby_Girl's blog.

My baby Turkish has been fitting. Hes a Bull Mastiff and 5 1/2 yrs of age & 15 stone. Noticed recently that he has had the odd days where he has not been himself,, Jumping up the windows, barking, howling in the night,,,hes been a different dog for around 4 weeks now,,,, at last now I know whats been happening to him,, not having witnessed him do this before till now, but only seeing the after effects of the hypo,, not knowing what was causing him to behave so strangely!

It happened yesterday, cooking sunday lunch and heard this deafening banging noise outside,, he was on the decking and the spasms were so frightening and difficult to watch,, scared me so much. We think he had another one during the night too,,

The vet came out today after giving me lots of advice about this sort of thing on the phone yesterday,, hes had the blood tests now,, just waiting to see if this can be treated.

Made me so sad to see him like that.

Since writing this he's just had another one,,they are becoming very frequent,, I hope these test results come back soon,,,

Does anyone else have a dog that suffers this,?

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7 Feb 11, 7:02 PM
gentlemusings
UK(M), 19 mths


I've never had a dog who's had this, but as a breeder of Neapolitan Mastiffs over the past 10 years I have heard several stories. You do need to get back to the breeder as it can be hereditry, parents and pups can be affected. If you tell them, they maybe conscentious enough not to use the same parents for re-mating and avoid this happening to other puppies and owners...

Keeping my fingers crossed for you and your baby... Big hugs

7 Feb 11, 7:04 PM
Shypeachybottom
UK, 20 mths
Speak with @miss_chief whose dog Ella has recently been diagnosed with epilepsy too (http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/posts/294895/). She has gone through this just recently so should be able to give you some good advice.

Give your dog a big hug and best of luck

lsg x

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7 Feb 11, 7:16 PM
miss_chief
UK(M), 7 yrs

Memo sent

x

7 Feb 11, 7:52 PM
astrid_the_spy
UK(G), 8 yrs
My german pointer suffered from epilepsy.

As a young dog she had a couple of wee "collapses" and it was put down to the fact she was extremely active but had a mild heart murmur.

When she was about 5yrs old she had a major seizure and went into what is called status epilepticus, which is when the animal doesn't come out of the seizure. She was rushed to the vets and then anaesthetized for 24 hrs with barbiturates.

Over the following days she then went on to have frequent seizures lasting more than 5 minutes long up to 10 times a day. Then for a period of a couple of weeks she was having frequent, mild seizures. Eventually she stabilised on phenobarbitone tablets and her seizures stopped.

Unfortunately the tablets made her extremely anxious and the vet I was using was not keen to try other medication so I slowly weaned her off them. She was a very excitable dog already and combined with anxiety she was unbearable to live with. Euthanasia was something I had begun to consider.

She then went for 3 years with no seizures. Then she had another 5 minute seizure. I took her to a new vet who gave me valium to give her to help her deal with the after effects of the seizure or that I could give her if I noticed the warning signs. She agreed not to restart phenobarbitone.

This method worked well for her and she had no more than 1 or 2 seizures a year. She went on to live until she was 11 yrs old.

Hopefully you have a good vet who is willing to try lots of option. I suppose it does depend what is wrong with your dog. All my dogs blood tests came back clear which pointed towards epilepsy rather than an illness or tumour.

7 Feb 11, 7:55 PM
Baby_Girl
UK, 5 yrs
£
Thank you gentlemusings,,, I still 5 years on have his breeders number and as soon as I find out what is actually triggering the siezures I will hold fire in contacting her about it,, so, hopefully sometime soon. Thank you for making me aware of this x

I have also had contact with the other ladies in question and feel very much happier and calm with the situation now ,,, thank you everyone for being there xx

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7 Feb 11, 8:00 PM
Baby_Girl
UK, 5 yrs
£
astrid_the_spy wrote:
My german pointer suffered from epilepsy.

As a young dog she had a couple of wee "collapses" and it was put down to the fact she was extremely active but had a mild heart murmur.

When she was about 5yrs old she had a major seizure and went into what is called status epilepticus, which is when the animal doesn't come out of the seizure. She was rushed to the vets and then anaesthetized for 24 hrs with barbiturates.

Over the following days she then went on to have frequent seizures lasting more than 5 minutes long up to 10 times a day. Then for a period of a couple of weeks she was having frequent, mild seizures. Eventually she stabilised on phenobarbitone tablets and her seizures stopped.

Unfortunately the tablets made her extremely anxious and the vet I was using was not keen to try other medication so I slowly weaned her off them. She was a very excitable dog already and combined with anxiety she was unbearable to live with. Euthanasia was something I had begun to consider.

She then went for 3 years with no seizures. Then she had another 5 minute seizure. I took her to a new vet who gave me valium to give her to help her deal with the after effects of the seizure or that I could give her if I noticed the warning signs. She agreed not to restart phenobarbitone.

This method worked well for her and she had no more than 1 or 2 seizures a year. She went on to live until she was 11 yrs old.

Hopefully you have a good vet who is willing to try lots of option. I suppose it does depend what is wrong with your dog. All my dogs blood tests came back clear which pointed towards epilepsy rather than an illness or tumour.

Thank you very much for this reply,, these things are good to know and what I dont need is an anxious bull mastiff. Its great that you are pointing out these things and has made me more aware now on medications to be wary of.Diazipan has been mentioned to me today,,, rated one of the best for no side effects by all accounts?

Thank you again x

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7 Feb 11, 9:42 PM
Baby_Girl
UK, 5 yrs
£
He had another fit at 8,40pm :-(

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7 Feb 11, 10:08 PM
astrid_the_spy
UK(G), 8 yrs
Baby_Girl wrote:
Thank you very much for this reply,, these things are good to know and what I dont need is an anxious bull mastiff. Its great that you are pointing out these things and has made me more aware now on medications to be wary of.Diazipan has been mentioned to me today,,, rated one of the best for no side effects by all accounts?

Thank you again x

There are plenty side effects to diazepam. Extreme drowsiness being one of them and sedation being the most obvious.

I am sure there are more drugs available for seizure now than there were when my dog was alive. Plus not all dogs experience all the side effects. Sometimes it's just trial and error. I wouldn't really recommend doing what I did and stopping your dogs medication without your vets advice. I think I was lucky it worked out ok.

Is your dog having repeated full blown fits where he falls over and has tremors? When do the vets expect to have the test results by? I'm asking because if it's happening regularly throughout the day I am surprised your vet hasn't given your dog medication (ie diazepam) until the results come though. (I used to be a vet nurse, hence my concern).

7 Feb 11, 10:22 PM
Baby_Girl
UK, 5 yrs
£
astrid_the_spy wrote:
Baby_Girl wrote:
Thank you very much for this reply,, these things are good to know and what I dont need is an anxious bull mastiff. Its great that you are pointing out these things and has made me more aware now on medications to be wary of.Diazipan has been mentioned to me today,,, rated one of the best for no side effects by all accounts?

Thank you again x

There are plenty side effects to diazepam. Extreme drowsiness being one of them and sedation being the most obvious.

I am sure there are more drugs available for seizure now than there were when my dog was alive. Plus not all dogs experience all the side effects. Sometimes it's just trial and error. I wouldn't really recommend doing what I did and stopping your dogs medication without your vets advice. I think I was lucky it worked out ok.

Is your dog having repeated full blown fits where he falls over and has tremors? When do the vets expect to have the test results by? I'm asking because if it's happening regularly throughout the day I am surprised your vet hasn't given your dog medication (ie diazepam) until the results come though. (I used to be a vet nurse, hence my concern).

Hello & thank you!

Yes, he is having full blown 3?4 minute siezures. Laying on the floor and fitting extremely & violently, then slowing down to almost a doggy paddle type motion each time it happens. The vet has assured me tests will be done within the next couple of days and that I am to collect Diazepam tomorrow from the surgery for rectal application.

He has had 3 fits today 'that I know of' , the last being a short while ago,,, he is also taking longer to recover from a siezure too,,, almost dazed like Instead of a 'hypo' reaction as has been the case on recent occassions.

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7 Feb 11, 10:54 PM
astrid_the_spy
UK(G), 8 yrs
Baby_Girl wrote:

Hello & thank you!

Yes, he is having full blown 3?4 minute siezures. Laying on the floor and fitting extremely & violently, then slowing down to almost a doggy paddle type motion each time it happens. The vet has assured me tests will be done within the next couple of days and that I am to collect Diazepam tomorrow from the surgery for rectal application.

He has had 3 fits today 'that I know of' , the last being a short while ago,,, he is also taking longer to recover from a siezure too,,, almost dazed like Instead of a 'hypo' reaction as has been the case on recent occassions.

To be honest, if he continues having fits during the night, and he was my dog I would call the out of hours vet surgery.

Fits are extremely exhausting for your dogs body and can put tremendous strain on his heart. I am surprised your vet hasn't already given you something for him or hospitalised him. Although if he has had 2 of the fits this evening your vet won't know about the frequency. When the vet saw him was he having fits as often as this?

By "hypo" do you mean he was behaving hyperactive? Hypo is generally used to describe something being lower ie, hypoglycaemic - low blood sugar, hypothermia - low body temperature, while hyper means increased...

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