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can male subs be sexualy atractive as a vanila man (47)

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1 Feb 11, 1:25 PM
JDubby
UK(GU), 2 yrs

no one sees me as manly, in vanilla and bdsm world, vanilla friends joked Id be a house husband in the future lol I dont care, Im happy being me, would be a waste of time trying to be really macho, protein shakes are disgusting :D

Elysium, nice link, but I lol'd at this: ''slash (the drummer from guns n roses)''

Edited 1 Feb 11, 1:35 PM by JDubby

1 Feb 11, 1:46 PM
peirene
UK(CH), 3 yrs
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

K x

Everyone has differing tastes. But seeing someone as attractive is no weakness.

1 Feb 11, 5:14 PM
soulful1
UK(RG), 5 yrs
Elysium wrote:
This is an example of a false dichotomy.

Submission = femininity

There are many others.

Dominance = Masculine

Submission = Passivity

Submission = penetrated

Man penetrated = Gay

Female Submission is patriarchal

Polyamoury = promiscuity

These false dichotomies are socialised within us. If you're struggling with your desires and what it means. It pays to realise that these things are not necessarily related.

There's a great video on this by MayMay, the guy behind malesubmissionart.com

It's here

http://maybemaimed.com/2010/02/08/on-dichotomies/

If you're struggling with reconciling your submissiveness with your masculine identity. It will turn Dominant women off. It's far more important to be secure in yourself than it is to attempt to reconcile a false dichotomy.

It won't be your self-perceived lack of manliness that makes people not attracted to you. It will be your insecurity.

The old cliche of just be yourself. Does hold true. Don't be limited by social stereotypes, play with them, by all means, just don't let them decide your identity. Human sexuality and wider identity is far more varied and wonderful than any of these simplistic and often binary views allow.

Great post :)

Everythings going to be ok, as long as I have enough beers:
Courtesy of Homer.J.Simpson

1 Feb 11, 5:32 PM
soulful1
UK(RG), 5 yrs
There are a few other false dichotomies that I can think of as well:

Submissive males: Are weak little worms and could no way be "real men".

Submissive women that are masochistic: It's ok to use domestic violence on them and abuse them.

Male Doms: Are all "Alpha males" and are all physically/mentally stronger than any sub male.

Submissive males: Are just selfish

Submissive women: Are all ditzy and need a man to control their life for them.

Doms/Dommes: Are always right because they are Doms/Dommes

Subs: Should just do as they are told and not question anything.

Female Dommes: Can have their pick of the males subs because, the male subs are all so desperate.

This might make a good thread actually :)

Everythings going to be ok, as long as I have enough beers:
Courtesy of Homer.J.Simpson

1 Feb 11, 5:36 PM
Miss_Dee
UK(L), 5 yrs

Lady_Alys wrote:
idonna wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

Second that, describes my Sub very well :)

Thirded, labels mean nothing - tis the man that matters.

fourthed (I think I made that up lol)

Miss D
Creasy's art is death, and he is about to paint his masterpiece

1 Feb 11, 5:50 PM
soulful1
UK(RG), 5 yrs
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
idonna wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

Second that, describes my Sub very well :)

Thirded, labels mean nothing - tis the man that matters.

fourthed (I think I made that up lol)

Fifthed, and that's a real word, honest.

Everythings going to be ok, as long as I have enough beers:
Courtesy of Homer.J.Simpson

1 Feb 11, 5:51 PM
Kali_Ma
UK(B), 5 yrs
soulful1 wrote:
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
idonna wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

Second that, describes my Sub very well :)

Thirded, labels mean nothing - tis the man that matters.

fourthed (I think I made that up lol)

Fifthed, and that's a real word, honest.

Holy Shit, does that mean I said something intelligent???? *blinks*

'I heard she's a bit of a thug' Mister Bear
www.kali-ma.me.uk Kali-Ma 'Punk Domme'
"I'm here to fuck shit up and I'm ready to go..." CombiChrist

1 Feb 11, 6:16 PM
Miss_Dee
UK(L), 5 yrs

Kali_Ma wrote:
soulful1 wrote:
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
idonna wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

Second that, describes my Sub very well :)

Thirded, labels mean nothing - tis the man that matters.

fourthed (I think I made that up lol)

Fifthed, and that's a real word, honest.

Holy Shit, does that mean I said something intelligent???? *blinks*

Hell yes and it made so much sense ;-) x

Miss D
Creasy's art is death, and he is about to paint his masterpiece

1 Feb 11, 6:22 PM
soulful1
UK(RG), 5 yrs
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
soulful1 wrote:
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
idonna wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

Second that, describes my Sub very well :)

Thirded, labels mean nothing - tis the man that matters.

fourthed (I think I made that up lol)

Fifthed, and that's a real word, honest.

Holy Shit, does that mean I said something intelligent???? *blinks*

Hell yes and it made so much sense ;-) x

Talking about sense, I have just sixthed it :)

Everythings going to be ok, as long as I have enough beers:
Courtesy of Homer.J.Simpson

1 Feb 11, 6:27 PM
Kali_Ma
UK(B), 5 yrs
soulful1 wrote:
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
soulful1 wrote:
Miss_Dacryphilia wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
idonna wrote:
Kali_Ma wrote:
If a boy is hot, a boy is hot, irrelevant of his 'persuasion' and by hot I don't just mean pleasing on the eye... he has to have substance, smarts, a twinkle in his eye and a smile on his mouth.

Second that, describes my Sub very well :)

Thirded, labels mean nothing - tis the man that matters.

fourthed (I think I made that up lol)

Fifthed, and that's a real word, honest.

Holy Shit, does that mean I said something intelligent???? *blinks*

Hell yes and it made so much sense ;-) x

Talking about sense, I have just sixthed it :)

Careful! Someone will accuse me of being intelligent next...

'I heard she's a bit of a thug' Mister Bear
www.kali-ma.me.uk Kali-Ma 'Punk Domme'
"I'm here to fuck shit up and I'm ready to go..." CombiChrist

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