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20 chatrooms with no-one in them (24)

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29 Jan 11, 5:12 PM
rustybar
UK(SY), 8 yrs
MisterBear wrote:

It's not hostility, it's just that you seem to be whinging about something rather than making an effort to fix the problem. I didn't see your name in the chatrooms earlier so I guess you couldn't be bothered to spend some time in there waiting for someone else to come along to chat to. Someone else was in there alone, I assume they were waiting for someone to come in to chat with.

And yes you are free to comment on how a website you use is run, but as you don't pay membership you can't really complain too much. But please feel free to make constructive comments as every little helps as you might come up with the ideal solution or inspire it from someone else.

I didn't make my post based on one snapshot in time. Since the rooms changed every time I've looked at them there's been either no-one or very few people in them. That's over a period of a couple of months.

Complain too much? I've created one thread on one issue. I've said I'm sure they had their reasons for what they did. And I don't really agree with the point that unless you pay membership you can't have a point of view on something that has changed...

"Working so hard I can't remember much About the feeling I've been working for But like a prisoner I looked in your eyes And saw a million wide open doors"

29 Jan 11, 5:19 PM
MisterBear
UK(WA), 8 yrs


rustybar wrote:
MisterBear wrote:
And yes you are free to comment on how a website you use is run, but as you don't pay membership you can't really complain too much.
And I don't really agree with the point that unless you pay membership you can't have a point of view on something that has changed...

And I don't agree with it either. I said you could complain, but you can't complain too much as it's not like you've paid for the service that you aren't happy with.

If people aren't using the chatrooms as much as you want then do something about it and start using them even if you don't really want to. Put the effort in and and you might be rewarded. Arrange a time for people to meet up and see if you can get people back.

We've gotta go to the crappy town where I'm a hero.

29 Jan 11, 5:27 PM
Topthoughts
UK(CV), 6 yrs
rustybar wrote:
20 chatrooms with no-one in them

Well done Admin. You played a blinder. :-(

Easy really, lots have been banned ,and there friends have gone with them to more friendlier chat sites. night john boy!!!

Edited 29 Jan 11, 5:32 PM by Topthoughts

29 Jan 11, 7:08 PM
AKAele
UK, 2 yrs
There is not a lot of point in going into a chatroom if the people there are not adult enough to either ignore comments they don't like or use the off button. If you don't like something then don't bloody use it!!

I rarely use them any more because I think the level of censorship and control is too high for an adult site, others have gone elsewhere because they were tired of the wrong people being banned.

There was fair warning that the chatrooms were going to be either changed or closed and many people put forward suggestions for improvement but Admin chose to make the changes that are now in place...it wouldn't have been my choice but it's not my site.

I don't see Rustybars post as whingeing, it is a valid point which he has every right to make, just because any payments to support the site are voluntary does not mean people should lose the right to comment.

29 Jan 11, 7:22 PM
perra_diablo
UK, 3 yrs

I just don't think Admin is at fault here when it was really the actions and words of those who couldn't take the warnings and behave like adults. If they've buggered off now, surely that's a good thing? Quality rather than quantity, no? Quoted from mia/admin

Quality control at work ?

It was not so much the fact the the chatrooms were closed rather than the way they were closed.

If admin doesn't want anyone in particular on their site a polite memo should do the trick.

Edited 29 Jan 11, 7:24 PM by perra_diablo

29 Jan 11, 7:46 PM
misstressclare
UK(TA), 4 yrs
£
I have to say over the months I have watched the rooms being made. I did wonder if they would be filled but then the other rooms we had were not used either.

I go to where a room has people, some times I sit in two.

I have though noted a increase in people comeing bk which I have to say is wonderfull.

Lets hope no matter what room or who we all respect each other.

MC

29 Jan 11, 7:59 PM
angellover
UK(CM), 3 yrs

Princess_Rotten wrote:
There is not a lot of point in going into a chatroom if the people there are not adult enough to either ignore comments they don't like or use the off button. If you don't like something then don't bloody use it!!

others have gone elsewhere because they were tired of the wrong people being banned.

There was fair warning that the chatrooms were going to be either changed or closed and many people put forward suggestions for improvement but Admin chose to make the changes that are now in place...it wouldn't have been my choice but it's not my site.

I don't see Rustybars post as whingeing, it is a valid point which he has every right to make, just because any payments to support the site are voluntary does not mean people should lose the right to comment.

agrees with the above but.... Maybe anyone setting up a room should make a commitment in being in the room at set times at least or if the room hasn't been used for 28 days then they get a warning to keep the room going or get notice to close the room to give others the opertunity to open another...

Yes It's rather sad to see so many rooms and there always empty... but i am glad we have the chat rooms open personally so i am not going to complain as its better than not having any.

The highest fences we have to climb, are those we have built within our mind

30 Jan 11, 5:11 AM
fireflame
UK(SS), 5 yrs
MisterBear wrote:
rustybar wrote:
MisterBear wrote:
rustybar wrote:
I take your points but the phrase "there's more than one way to skin a cat" springs to mind and perhaps what was done was a bit ham-fisted....

And just how have you sorted out the problem on your website?

If people aren't using the chatrooms it's usually because there is no one in there to chat to because people generally aren't prepared to stay in there long enough for other people to join them. So if you want the chatrooms active make an effort and stay in there or at least post a time and place for people to get together for a chat.

Or you could just whinge and accomplish little.

I don't have a website??

Not quite sure why the hostility...if you run a site like this that's open for people to use, you have to expect your decisions to be scrutinised and discussed. In this instance, I think they've got it wrong and am entitled to say so. Before the changes I mentioned, the main room regularly had up to 40 people in it. It was the decision to close it that wrecked all that. I've not seen more than nine in any of the 20 current rooms at any point and that was only once. I think that's a bit of a pity. I am sure Admin had their reasons for what they did but it doesn't mean the merits of it can't be discussed....

It's not hostility, it's just that you seem to be whinging about something rather than making an effort to fix the problem. I didn't see your name in the chatrooms earlier so I guess you couldn't be bothered to spend some time in there waiting for someone else to come along to chat to. Someone else was in there alone, I assume they were waiting for someone to come in to chat with.

And yes you are free to comment on how a website you use is run, but as you don't pay membership you can't really complain too much. But please feel free to make constructive comments as every little helps as you might come up with the ideal solution or inspire it from someone else.

In your opinion, is one weblog by rustybar complaining too much?

I was told by Admin that as a user of chat, I was getting a free ride at their expense. I have pondered this 'free ride' comment, as every time I click a page, do I not create revenue from the adverts above?

With control comes arrogance, with revenue comes greed. Now we have donations (with deteriorating service) - what's next? Fees for uploading pictures? Membership fees?

Edited 30 Jan 11, 5:12 AM by fireflame

30 Jan 11, 2:33 PM
MisterBear
UK(WA), 8 yrs


fireflame wrote:
In your opinion, is one weblog by rustybar complaining too much?

I was told by Admin that as a user of chat, I was getting a free ride at their expense. I have pondered this 'free ride' comment, as every time I click a page, do I not create revenue from the adverts above?

With control comes arrogance, with revenue comes greed. Now we have donations (with deteriorating service) - what's next? Fees for uploading pictures? Membership fees?

I didn't say he was complaining too much, I said he couldn't. If he was paying for the service then yes he can complain as much as he likes until the issue is sorted. But as it's free he can't complain too much about the issue as he's not paying for the service.

And yes each time you get a new banner you are earning 50th of a pence for the site, if it's not a charity banner. However I'm not sure how much the the bandwidth costs are so you could be costing the site 50th of a pence per page and thus working out even. So it's looking like the banner adverts are there to help cover the costs of running the site and any profits that don't go on bandwidth are probably spent on hardware. Although you can donate as the donation part, I believe was implemented to help cover some of the costs that the advertising wasn't and came in after there were hardware problems that required a new server, which aren't cheap. So as this site isn't generally profit making (although I've not seen any figures) then you are probably getting a free ride or at least a damn good deal.

Still it's nice to see all you people appreciating the effort that Admin has had to put in over the years. If Admin hadn't put the effort in then you lot wouldn't be so pissed off at the fact that some people turn the chatrooms into a problem that needed to be solved. And ok you didn't like the solution but it's nice to see you blaming the one who tried to fix it and gave you all plenty of chance to fix it yourselves. You don't seem to be blaming the people who caused the problem initially and you don't seem to be doing anything to help fix the problem like encouraging people to use the chatrooms. Hell if they are populated by selfish, unappreciative people as have commented on here blaming Admin for trying to make the chatrooms a friendlier environment instead of doing it yourselves, then no wonder they are empty most of the time.

If you want the chatrooms busy again then make an effort to encourage people there.

We've gotta go to the crappy town where I'm a hero.

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