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When is it okay to lie? (13)

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Pink_Freud
Posted by Pink_Freud on Mon 24 Jan 11, 10:25 AM to the Informed_Debate group.

As this is Informed Debate, I mean the question in a philosophical sense. When (if ever) is it morally acceptable to lie? And to what extent? Before you say "never", consider that a lie of omission may not be substantially different from a lie of commission, depending on circumstances. For example, which of the following is okay?

"Does my bum look big in this?"

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24 Jan 11, 10:47 AM
anne_marie*
UK(SE), 5 yrs
"Hell, yes" whilst grabbing a double handful of butt cheek and giving it an appreciative wobble, works for me.

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24 Jan 11, 12:02 PM
Attitude_Adjuster
UK(N), 6 yrs

IS "No" really an outright lie? The questions entirely subjective and one persons big arse is another's perfectly formed butt!

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24 Jan 11, 12:22 PM
Sissy_girl
UK(M), 4 yrs


To be honest , I'm a compulsive liar =-o

but then some lies are bigger than others .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH18_dZIYOE

What was it Goebbbels said about " The bigger the lie ...

The easier it will be believed ?

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24 Jan 11, 5:22 PM
Ian_2007
UK(N), 4 yrs
"This Marine believes that no answer he could give to that question would be correct." (Full Metal Jacket)
24 Jan 11, 7:43 PM
proccie
UK(HP), 6 yrs


No, it looks no bigger than in anything else you wear.

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3 Mar 11, 11:35 PM
Black0rchid
UK, 2 yrs

"Statistics are a special form of lie" ~ Disraeli

Az me shloft mit hint, shtayt men oyf mit flay : or, Quien con perros se acuesta, con pulgas se levanta.
Meaning ~ If you lie down with the dogs, you get up with the fleas.

3 Mar 11, 11:41 PM
AKAele
UK, 2 yrs
When the lie is intended for someone elses gain other than your own.
4 Mar 11, 2:24 AM
yoda_dog
UK(HP), 6 yrs

Who in their right mind would ask this question? Idiots, that's who.

Rather, 'How do I look in this?' Or, 'What do you think?'

Answers that are acceptable:

I don't like it

It doesn't suit you

It doesn't do you any favours

No

Let's find something else

It looks great

Going back to the OP, are lies acceptable? Yes, to a certain extent. But a friend wouldn't tell someone they look great when they look like a bag of nails tied in the middle.

"Bottom line: it's couples who are truly right for each other wade through the same crap as everybody else, but the big difference is they don't let it take them down. One of those two people will stand up and fight for that relationship every time."

4 Mar 11, 4:31 AM
Neophites_jewel
AU, 4 yrs

I'd tell her (and we're assuming it's a 'her', aren't we?), so my vote is second from the bottom. Sparing someone's feelings is one thing, but letting someone go out in an outfit that has a high chance of seam-splittage (unless that's your thing) isn't nice either.

How about this one from a proud new parent after giving birth to Elmer Fudd's less attractive bloodhound-faced cousin: "Isn't he/she cute?" NOW what do you do??

Or, perhaps not as difficult, but your good friend arrives at the pub with his or her flavour of the month, someone he/she is absolutely head over heels for, but it is obvious to you that this person (a strong 4, let's say, both looks and personality-wise) is not in the league of your friend (a definite 8, possibly 9 on a good day - and btw, let's face it: you've wanted to fuck him/her for years). He/she asks your opinion.

OR...your mother calls and asks what you were up to over the weekend?

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

Edited 4 Mar 11, 4:32 AM by Neophites_jewel

4 Mar 11, 6:10 PM
SmoothSwitch3
UK(YO), 15 mths

I'd say in general response to the question of when it is OK to lie would depend largely on your relationship with the other person and how much you are willing to stretch that friendship. It would also depend on the other person, if for example you know they are massively self-conscious you have to think that the truth can be of more help in the long run but if you haven't got any cahunas, a lie's always a good start.

I would usually opt for truth with people (and do) but that makes me well unpopular so ignore everything I've just said, Kthxbai.

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