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Forced bi - I just can't do it! (94)

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24 Jan 11, 2:58 PM
smoofing
UK(SW), 2 yrs

i may be swerving slightly from the point of the thread here; but i'd like to throw a few things into the ring here.

like everyone else, bisexual men come in a wide range of flavours. from the avowedly hetro guy who does a gay thing to please his woman, (even if it makes him physically sick, and yes, ive seen this happen ) to the happily and contentedly bisexual man . from the sub to the dom from the top to the botom, switchy and every other permutation you could think of .

let alone the 'menu' of activities a bi man may or not like . ( again, just the same as everyone else. )

like-wise, the level of forcedness that might apply surely has to be a result of negotiation beforehand . coomon sense dictates this. if a guy is traumatised or has some kind of violent reaction to any given activity, it can't really be a positive thing for anyone concerned.

we come in all shapes and sizes and with our own proclivites. for a happy bisexual like me, 'forced' would include perfoming with someone i just didn't fancy. with a different partner, there might be no force needed.

personally i am in the camp of no need or wish for forced; to play with someone i fancied, under the guidance and direction of a woman is a fantastic thing.( or with a different combination of male and female for that matter ) but even then, you would surely consider the natural relationship between the two guys to be an important dynamic in the play. eg. whos' top whos' bottom, are they switchy or both sub etc.

although i don't detect it in this thread; there is a tendancy still to assume that a bi man, reluctant or otherwise, will suck fuck play with anything in a skirt or trousers. this is to me a flawed image. i would no more want to suck the cock of a man i didnt like than the next girl. ;)

Edited 24 Jan 11, 3:07 PM by smoofing

24 Jan 11, 3:11 PM
MademoiselleKlar*
UK, 19 mths

You know I have done a bit and seen a bit in this lifestyle and not dead yet. So I will just say "Hell Why Not?" I am learning that if you don't try something you don't know if you like it or not. I would have strict rules if I was witnessing/directing such passion however, such as safe sexual practise. I wouldn't want anything on my conscience here you see :-)
24 Jan 11, 3:35 PM
Mistress_sultrybelle
UK(G), 2 yrs
£
I have had gay guys offer to have sex with my ex sub. Also two gay men who are a couple asked if I would be their Mistress. I am also in the lifestyle. I have alot of gay friends and they regularly have sex with bi curious men.

bondagenotts2 wrote:
Mistress_sultrybelle wrote:
I like the thought of one being fully gay and the other just being curious but totally inexperienced. Hot ;-)

Fantasy! If one was "fully gay" he would not be in session with a female/Domme. Gay for a man means being attracted to MEN.

I am gay, 100% comfortable with it and I would NEVER get into a scene involving any female person, it is an alien prospect to me and being forced to do it would be akin to rape/abuse.

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24 Jan 11, 3:37 PM
Mistress_sultrybelle
UK(G), 2 yrs
£
Yeh I am only interested in watching, not being involved. Thanks for that Lillybee x

first_forced_Bi wrote:
lilybee wrote:
bondagenotts2 wrote:
Mistress_sultrybelle wrote:
I like the thought of one being fully gay and the other just being curious but totally inexperienced. Hot ;-)

Fantasy! If one was "fully gay" he would not be in session with a female/Domme. Gay for a man means being attracted to MEN.

<snip>

I disagree with that. I know of a lovely gay fella who only submits to females. Says its part of the humiliation that makes it work. There is no penetration in it for them but as has been said many times before BDSM is not all about that bit for all anyway. Just because something is not so for you doesn't mean it's not so for all.

ps just to add she did say m on m not f on m!

It is the opposite of this for me but i suppose the same feeling as your gay friend. Its the humiliation of being forced to act with another male that makes it work for me. So i know what you mean!

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Edited 24 Jan 11, 3:41 PM by Mistress_sultrybelle

24 Jan 11, 4:10 PM
BadWulf
UK(TA), 6 yrs

Is there a distinction between forced Bi with guys as opposed to girls?

Struggling to see it myself.

- Wulfy

My, what sharp teeth I have.

24 Jan 11, 4:23 PM
chartreuse
UK(BA), 6 yrs

Numbers wrote:
chartreuse wrote:
...a female wielding her strap-on is as "bi" as some men get...

You see, I don't consider that as being 'bi' at all.

The defining characteristic of 'bi' is surely finding both those of the same sex & the opposite sex attractive (sexually) at some level.

Just because the prostate happens to be situated where it is & accessing it involves anal penetration, that doesn't make me fancy men.

There's a big gap in the logic of that (apparently quite common) assumption AFAIC...

A woman with a strap-on (or any other toy for that matter) is still a woman.

;-)

376, xxx.

I agree with you... being bi-sexual means that you enjoy two sexes... a woman wearing a strap-on is, as you say, still a woman.

Therefore, I wonder why so many male subs describe themselves as "bi" when what they really mean is... they have no intention of participating in any actual bi contact but love to have a dildo/strap-on shoved up their arse by a female.

@The_Problem_Page

24 Jan 11, 4:28 PM
x_zero_x
UK(DD), 10 yrs

i don't like being on the recieving end of anal in any form, i just can't relax, it just feels like i need to empty my bowels.

i'f i'm completely immobilized, bound and gagged, i kind of open up to it but i need to be in or near subspace, it pretty much is a forced thing for me. i could maybe handle going down on a guy wearing a pair of those latex shieth pants as it wouldn't actually be touching it but that's about it!

"The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything." ~Friedrich Nietzsche

28 Jan 11, 3:30 PM
ting_tong
UK(LN), 5 yrs

PerilsofRobin wrote:
OllieVW wrote:
PerilsofRobin wrote:
OllieVW wrote:
PerilsofRobin wrote:
OllieVW wrote:
Mistress_sultrybelle wrote:
ScarletLetter wrote:
will_ingtoplease wrote:
controversial opinion maybe but

Forced Bi

is abuse or rape

there said it

I think people posting are more talking about the enjoyment and permutations associated with 'forced', not actual Forced... you know for mutual enjoyment of all parties, like fun

Well said. Those people being "forced" have probably begged their mistress to be involved in a forced bi scenario.

You think? not in my life have I ever asked to be forced to suck cock, take it up the ass, wank another guy or visa versa.

This would be forced on me and I'm warning now "ILL GO DOWN WITH A FIGHT" lol

I fucking hate these threads.

I think this thread is maybe a bit unique in that it's about male subs who ENJOY bisexuality and their role in a domme situation. This obviously doesn't concern you and that's fine.

Why doesn't it concern me? you thread is about forced bi (same sex) if you enjoy it then its not forced so IMO wouldn't be fulfilling for a Dom/me as the whole purpose of forcing someone to do something is to observe their reactions and from a D/s point of view see how far someone will go to please.

What your describing is simply two guys putting on a show for their dom/me.

As to it not concerning me I'm interested to hear your reply.

It neither states in my profile if I do or don't enjoy same sex activities. I play with males regularly, sexualy stimulated by males and find males attractive as are females.

Well you said "I hate these fucking threads" for one thing. I was just trying to nicely say well this thread might not be for you but it might be for others. If I have in some way misjudged you - sorry about that.

Ok thanks for replying.

My fault. My comment was tongue and cheek. I hate these threads as it gives her great pleasure to see me toil with the future guarantee of a same sex experience.

No offence taken and none meant :)

No problems - thanks for the nice post.

wow all these comments showing looks kinda artistic may be bi iconic lol

bobby

28 Jan 11, 4:49 PM
Sarah_Kane
UK(M), 4 yrs
£
Been a Trans-Mistress Forced-bi is very much apart of my sessions, I love nothing more than having a slaves on his knees in front of me and grabbing hold of him and forcing him to suck my weapon, been on the large size is also very humiliating for a slave.

I also enjoy stapping a slave down than lowering my self down on to him forcing him to worship me fully.

So yes in my own twisted way I do get a lot out of it...x

Mistress Sarah Kane

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Edited 28 Jan 11, 4:51 PM by Sarah_Kane

28 Jan 11, 7:23 PM
ThRobin
UK(SE), 19 mths
Jack69 wrote:
Why when reading this do i think yes please :)

Because maybe you're into REWARD bi?

Edited 28 Jan 11, 7:25 PM by ThRobin

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