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Cable Ties (35)

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16 Jan 11, 1:07 AM
maid_jenny1
UK(NN), 6 yrs

Flogher wrote:
I would echo the safety concerns alreadt expressed.

The narrow cable ties are too narrow and can easily be over-tightened and restrict blood supply. They also tend to snap under pressure.

The broader ones are a little more comfortable but suffer from the same problems, over tightening. In practice I would restrict them the 'play rape' or 'play kidnapping' scenarios and certainly never leave them in place for longer than 15 minutes.

Where they DO have some uses is as a 'customs seal' type of tool. Assume you have a slave cage and want to imprison your nearest and dearest. Only a fool locks them into a solid cage with a stout padlock as tragedies have happened. If dom/domme has a heart attack then slave dies of dehydration or starvation.

Instead of a solid lock, use a light cable tie. Now dom/domme CAN go to work and leave nearest and dearest in cage all day long knowing that if the house catches fire or dom/domme has an accident then nearest and dearest can kick their way out quite quickly. The light cable ties snap under medium/strong pressure. I've even broken one used around my own wrists. The cable tie merely serves like a customs seal and shows whether subbie has left his/her cage. If tie is broken when dom/domme comes home then subbie has some explaining or forfeits to do.

I agree the small ones can be used as a anti tamper seal BUT do test that you can break it first as cable ties are surprisingly strong for their size.

Flogher wrote:

A light cable tie can also be used as a temporary slave collar, perhaps one-night only. Fit the cable tie and tighten to a position where two fingers EASILY fit behind it, then CUT OFF the surplus (unused) tie with a pair of nail scissors or clippers. You now have a temporary collar which cannot be pulled tighter as the bit you usually pull to tighten has been cut off.

WRONG if you grab the tie across the locking ratchet and squeeze it, as you might well accidently do if you pull your sub in for a kiss, it can tighten. I wouldn't allow one to be used on me like this.

Also if you are asleep and moving about or where to rub your neck the tie could tighten buy a notch or two. Doesn't sound too bad but how many times do you move at night ?

Edited 16 Jan 11, 1:17 AM by maid_jenny1

16 Jan 11, 3:10 AM
Flogher
UK(RM), 9 yrs

maid_jenny1 wrote:

WRONG if you grab the tie across the locking ratchet and squeeze it, as you might well accidently do if you pull your sub in for a kiss, it can tighten. I wouldn't allow one to be used on me like this.

Also if you are asleep and moving about or where to rub your neck the tie could tighten buy a notch or two. Doesn't sound too bad but how many times do you move at night ?

Hmmmm... Unless we are working with different types of ties, I just experimented with one I have here and cut the unused plastic off. I was unable to tighten it.

Anything is possible and I always err on the side of caution but I cannot see a means by which this can be tightened without the surplus to pull upon. That's why I said cut it off.

Flogher - I cane, I whip, I cuddle

16 Jan 11, 4:09 AM
x_zero_x
UK(DD), 10 yrs

scots_guy wrote:
Does anyone have any good or bad experiences playing with them?

i have had my genitals bound wih them, quite an intense experience

"The true man wants two things: danger and play. For that reason he wants woman, as the most dangerous plaything." ~Friedrich Nietzsche

16 Jan 11, 6:35 AM
Ty_Tightly
UK(CV), 3 yrs
Not all cable ties are equal. Some have quite weak pawl springing in them , these can be tightend by leaning on them when they are wraped rounds a a wrist or leg because of the tissue softness. This doesnt happen on a bundle of cables because they are much firmer. The soft pawl ties are also much more prone to "ratcheting".So best to test each pack you use , even the releasable ones . Keep the cutters handy and stay safe .

Edited 16 Jan 11, 6:36 AM by Ty_Tightly

16 Jan 11, 7:55 AM
boundarypusher
UK(CH), 2 yrs

For years cable ties have been a favourite of mine. And I don't think I have ever had a bad experience. I like that they are so quick to use, and that you can secure a sub anywhere quickly, or change position without losing time or the flow of a session. I don't think I would ever leave the room with them on for anything more than a minute or two just in case, and if they do become too tight you can easily cut them off and use a new one.

I have only used them around a subs neck once, but I did mean I spent time checking it was ok, so did not enjoy the rest of the session as much as I could have.

My favourite uses would be to use a cable tie around the breasts, or if I am being particularly cruel, I attach a peg to a subs nipple, then squeeze it tighter by securing a cable tie around it.

I think small ones look good around big toes, and give an extra feeling of being restricted.

And quite recently I used some to tie someones thumbs 'discreetly' when out in a vanilla / public setting, where any form of rope would be too obvious.

Deceptively shallow.

16 Jan 11, 9:10 AM
valiant1
UK(ST), 7 yrs

bondagenotts2 wrote:
I seem to have been so totally unimaginative with these - you guys use them for good stuff like wrist ties and collars - I only used them as cockstraps, and then a touch more tightness adds to the interest - up to a point of course, don't want to cut off the blood supply to the most vital parts. Agree about having them sufficiently wide so as not to cut into the skin

If you do this, I'd suggest getting the releasable/re-usable ones - a bit more expensive and harder to find (try cpc.co.uk) but I wouldn't fancy trying to get a pair sidecut pliers in place between a swollen cock and an overtight tie.

16 Jan 11, 9:10 AM
Agent_Cooper
UK(CF), 4 yrs
Like most things there are pros and cons. However, when considering the other forms of securing a sub these are the best as they are both secure and can be tailered to the individual subs size. Also, it is relatively quick to free the sub when required.
16 Jan 11, 7:46 PM
KinkyRoly
UK(OX), 3 yrs

Lj_switch wrote:
... Cutting the "tail" off flush with the lock after securing the sub would prevent the former happening.

As a fellow perve who also uses these things for their intended purpose, I would be very careful about how you cut the tail off. Unless the tail is cut off absolutely flush, a protruding part of less than one mm can leave a nasty sharp edge.

Those who regularly handle cable looms that have been bundled together with cut off cable ties doubtless have the war wounds to show for it. I don't think I'd like sharp edges like that in close proximity to my partner's skin. If using a cable tie for bondage, I would not cut the tail off.

Police forces do use something that looks like cable ties, but disposable handcuffs have bands that are appreciably wider than most cable ties. Specialised electronics suppliers can supply cable ties with wider or longer straps than those commonly used and are therefore much more suited to our purposes.

My preference is to use tree straps. I get them from a horticultural supplier. They are used to secure young trees to support stakes. The ones I use have a plain black, soft plastic strap about 25mm wide with a rugged nylon buckle. They are secure, robust and even waterproof. Best of all, they're inexpensive and re-usable. Those who visit Ann and Roly's may well have noticed that we have available a box of them in various lengths so that those without suitable rope skills can still fasten their partners to the cobweb.

16 Jan 11, 8:25 PM
leopard99
UK(N), 2 yrs

KinkyRoly wrote:
....Unless the tail is cut off absolutely flush, a protruding part of less than one mm can leave a nasty sharp edge.

Those who regularly handle cable looms that have been bundled together with cut off cable ties doubtless have the war wounds to show for it.....

I've been caught a few times too. I'm not keen on using cable ties directly on skin but they are fine for attaching a cuff to a frame etc. More versatile than a padlock and can't be undone by a naughty sub like a carabiner. Easily cut in emergency too, unlike a padlock where you may have to search for the key or a carabiner which can be awkward to undo.

Is this the kind o fthing you mean by tree ties? Any recommended suppliers or is it just a visit to your local kinky garden centre? http://www.pitchcare.com/shop/tree-ties/24mm-tre...

Edited 16 Jan 11, 8:26 PM by leopard99

16 Jan 11, 10:37 PM
maid_jenny1
UK(NN), 6 yrs

Flogher wrote:
maid_jenny1 wrote:

WRONG if you grab the tie across the locking ratchet and squeeze it, as you might well accidently do if you pull your sub in for a kiss, it can tighten. I wouldn't allow one to be used on me like this.

Also if you are asleep and moving about or where to rub your neck the tie could tighten buy a notch or two. Doesn't sound too bad but how many times do you move at night ?

Hmmmm... Unless we are working with different types of ties, I just experimented with one I have here and cut the unused plastic off. I was unable to tighten it.

Anything is possible and I always err on the side of caution but I cannot see a means by which this can be tightened without the surplus to pull upon. That's why I said cut it off.

Just a couple of ties I grabbed from my tool kit, I put them on my wrist, cut of the ends and rolled my wrist on the sofa arm for a minute or so and one had tightened a bit. Grabbing my wrist also pushed the end though.

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